<Mod Warning> Kelly denouces politics then gets political

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  1. Legalist Law

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    Everyone understands politics has no place when it comes to honoring Gold Star families.
    It began with a question to the President regarding the silence of the President.
    The simple answer would have been, it was addressed by the Press Secretary a few days after the event. But no, the President had to make it a competition between himself and former Presidents. Then a call was made to one of the families which was received over speaker phone. A congresswoman felt and expressed that the President had disrespected the fallen soldier in his call. The President denied he had ever used the words claimed by the Congresswoman, confirmed by the mother.
    Enter Kelly, this respected General, in my opinion entered the field of politics, not when he claimed he was stunned by the congresswoman's response to the call but when he proceeded to relay a dedication event at a Florida building to try and discredit the Congresswoman. Unnecessary and undermined his whole intent of the day.

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    The main problem with these people is that they got a moron at the helm and they have to spend their time polishing every turd that he drops along the way.
    The nightmare for them is that they never stop coming.
    They have no idea, on any given day, what neurotic eruption will emerge from their great orange hope.
    It must be so tiresome to keep having to defend such a deplorable character and his interminable brain farts and pathological narcissism.
     
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    That was the only time I was disappointed in the entire 18 minutes or so Kelly talked. He actually said he was stunned that the Congresswoman listened in on a private phone call, as if she was eavesdropping from the line in the bedroom.

    The Congresswoman knew this dead soldier since he was a young child, was his mentor, helped him decide to enter the military, was a long time friend of his family's, was asked by the family to ride to the tarmac with them in the car, the family (wife) put the call on speakerphone knowing everyone could hear it. It isn't Kelly's place to question why the widow of this dead Green Beret opted to have the call on speakerphone. None of his business.

    Trump lied, and he was caught. Kelly told us very clearly yesterday that Trump doesn't know how to pick up a phone and express sympathy to a widow. Kelly told us very clearly yesterday that the President can't follow simple instructions on how to speak, since what Kelly suggested didn't even come close to coming out of Trump's mouth. Kelly told us that he told Trump about Obama not calling him when Trump asked him about it, in a private conversation, which Trump couldn't wait to share on Fox News radio with his drooling fan base.

    Trump is an absolute disgrace of a man. I respect the office of President, and I always have and will continue to do so as long as I'm alive. What I don't respect is the man occupying that office today.

    Anyone who doesn't call Trump out for this deserves as much scorn as Trump does.
     
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    Kelly has sold his soul for some power. I think that he's developed an Alexander Haig complex.
    Trump soils everything he touches, and Kelly is apparently no exception.
     
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    'Stunned' By John Kelly's Attack On Rep. Frederica Wilson
     
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    Dem congress critter politicized a gold star family = commendable. Liberal logic 101.
     
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    It's apparent you heard what you wanted to hear. Trump did not say just "he knew what he was getting into" which is what the Congresswoman tried to accuse him of. Trump said *more* than that - as Kelly explained.

    As usual, the left and the MSM has to take Trump's words totally out of context in order to attack him. And doing it over a private conversation of condolence to a Gold Star widow is just totally over the line. Kelly was only giving an example of how this Congresswoman acts in order to give a baseline for understanding why she did it again this time.

    As Kelly said, this man *did* know what he signed up for, and he died doing what he signed up to do and he did it with those he wanted to do it with. He is a hero. And he must be spinning in his coffin over how the left and the MSM are using his death to attack the President for showing empathy toward those he left behind!
     
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    I like you to point out when I referred to the quote attributed to the President?
    What I heard was Kelly referring to an event at a building dedication to attack the credibility of the congresswoman and at that point cross a line into politics. That was my point. Further to my point, by doing so, he lessened the stature of his otherwise great credibility.
     
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    You heard *exactly* what you wanted to hear. Kelly said that *he* was told the exact same thing by the officer that called him to inform him of his own son's death. And I am sure that Kelly told the President that. Nor was the phrase "he knew what he signed up for" all that Trump said. It's a phrase taken out of context solely to attack Trump. It was chosen to make Trump sound callous and unempathetic. When taken in the context, however, of the rest of what Trump said - that he died a hero - it is not callous at all. The man signed up knowing he could die and he went ahead anyway. That's called bravery. Trump was recognizing that bravery, he wasn't denigrating the man at all!

    It's obvious that your hate is blinding you - as it does all the left and the MSM. 9 months after Trump was sworn into office none of you have gotten over Hillary being defeated. And instead of looking inside and figuring out *why* that happened you just focus your hate outward. Pathetic.
     
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    Did you not read *my* post? Kelly did this to lay out a baseline for the character of the woman attacking the President. She is an opportunist who will take advantage of *any* situation to further her political career. Sullying the commemoration of two fallen law enforcement officers for her own personal political gain is right in line with sullying the condolence call of the President to a Gold Star widow for her own personal political gain.

    Kelly did not lessen *his* credibility. He laid out a good argument for questioning the credibility of the Congresswoman.

    The fact that you cannot see this only lays your own credibility out for questioning!
     
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    Thank you for making my point.
     
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    The sleazy, ambulance-chasing congresswoman started it. No class at all.
     
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    I hear exactly what General Kelly said.

    I didn't vote for Hillary.

    Any other failures you're anxious to achieve?
     
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    Actually, no, she was wrong in her attack and comments, but she is not the one who started this. It was President Trump, sharing a private discussion he had with General Kelly about his son's death with Fox News Radio in an effort to jab at President Obama, who started this.
     
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    You are *still* filled with hate for Trump. So much so that you would believe that he called a Gold Star widow merely to denigrate her husband.

    PATHETIC!
     
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    That comment had NOTHING to do with Trump's conversation with the Gold Star widow! NOTHING!

    It *was* Rep Wilson that made that call into a political attack against Trump for her own crass political gain!
     
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    Kelly called Women Sacred then gets puts down a Woman while taking orders from Gropper.
     
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    I wouldn't know about liberal logic. I'll trust you given that you're a liberal.

    President Trump politicized a gold star family too. Was that commendable too? Because you're the one who decided that what the Congresswoman did was "commendable", not me.
     
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    It was President Trump who made a personal attack against Obama using the death of General Kelly's son for his own crass personal gain as well. You just won't admit it.
     
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    But Rep Wilson was *NOT* talking about Trump's comment on Kelly and Obama. She was trying to attack Trump by saying he was discrediting the soldier's heroism.

    Have you looked at the title of the thread of the OP post?
     
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    Trump politicized what Obama did not do. He didn't politicize what Obama said because Obama said NOTHING!

    Rep Wilson used the PRIVATE conversation between Trump and a Gold Star widow to attack Trump by taking his comments out of context!
     
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    Thank you for confirming that Trump politicized the death of John Kelly's son. We already knew that.
     
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    Again, he didn't politicize the soldiers death. He *did* politicize Obama's inaction when it concerned a hard thing to do.

    Of course you are defending Obama. Your TDS is subsuming your mind. Think about it!
     
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    Trump politicized the soldier's death by invoking the dead solider as a means of jabbing Obama.

    That isn't defending Obama. That's stating a fact. Obama's actions are the issue. Trump's are.
     
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    Trump was asked by the MSM about the contacts with the Gold Star families. He answered. He answered using Obama's actions as an example.

    You can defend Obama all you want. It doesn't change anything.
     

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