How Women Dismantle and Destroy Nations

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    So?

    It also contains painfully pretentious lip service to 'compassion'.
     
  2. ManWithNoName

    ManWithNoName Active Member Past Donor

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    Looks like you've walked back this statement from a couple of posts ago;

    You want schools to run more like a business; but you don't want privatization of schools? So you want our schools to operate more like the private sector; but still be public... Well OK, sure... How about we do away with tenure completely but double teacher's salaries so we can attract better talent?

    Or how about we look at those countries that have better public education systems than us and learn from them - just as a struggling business would look towards successful businesses/competitors in their field and attempt to mimic, improve, adopt and innovate on top of an already successful model?

    How about you do some research and come back to us and see what you find instead of blaming everything on one party and the teachers union that generally supports them? Or do you view everything through the lens of the Noble Libertarian vs Evil Authoritarian (which I assume in this case is anyone that's NOT libertarian across the board)?
     
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  3. Polydectes

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    no you're deliberately trying to obfuscate.

    I said like a business meaning similar. And the similarity would be if you suck you're fired.



    exactly they should be outcome-oriented. That would be similar to a business if you make widgets that no one wants your business fails. If you make widgets so you can pay idiots your business fails.

    If you make widgets because people want widgets and will pay you for them your business succeeds.

    In the way I meant that it should be like schools is that schools teach children that are then educated people will want to go to those schools. The system now won't let you. You have to go to schools that are in your neighborhood.

    This is why some areas have shittier education. There is no incentive for them to be better they get paid no matter what.

    I sort of agree with this. We should do away with tenure. Teachers who are good should be paid more. But the most important thing is that people should be able to have a voucher and pick a school that their child can go to just that the voucher means any text Monies go to that school.

    Crummy schools would lose funding as they should.

    okay we can look at that but the problem is how do we get the money? In Texas the money is collected through property taxes. If you want to implement something that's way more expensive and you're going to sell this to the public and say all right all you people that don't have kids have to vote on a 40 50 60 per cent tax increase on your property. So where you may pay $2,000 a year it might be three four or even five thousand after you vote for this.

    I wish you luck.

    I have done research it is the union that sues the school district if they fire a piece of s*** teacher. That's the problem.

    Any more research I'm going to do is not going to cause me to ignore that problem.

    Another problem is that people aren't allowed to decide which schools their children go to they're forced to go to schools in the neighborhoods and if the schools get funding regardless there is no incentive to do better.

    No amount of research is going to negate those facts.

    authoritarianism is evil.

    There's a sliding scale between authoritarianism and libertarianism there is a center and I think coming down to the center would help a lot of people you don't have to move left to right just to move down.
     
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    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    The first video has been removed from youtube.

    I"ll say this, our society would be much better if men acted like men. Liberals and the media have been portraying men as serial cheaters, oppressive bullies, and/or bumbling doofuses for decades.

    Remember in the 90s/2000s all the hit TV shows? Seinfeld. Friends. Everybody Loves Raymond. King of Queens. What did they all have in common? The men were all idiots that had no self confidence. The only two characters that were even remotely manly were Kramer from Seinfeld and Joey from Friends. But that had to counter that by making them half retarded. Every TV show, movie, or commercial with black and white lead male characters had the black as the cool, hip, strong guy, and the white guy as a buffoon.
     
  5. ManWithNoName

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    So let me get this straight;

    a. you're done doing research, because you've learned what you need to learn about the education system and your mind is now closed.

    b. public schools should act more like a business; results oriented, if a teacher teaches well, he or she will be rewarded, if not they'll be fired...

    Well how do we judge teachers on results? It's not as easily quantifiable as your example of 'building and selling widgets'? Or is it? How do we judge what company is best at building and selling widgets? The company that makes the most profit over the next quarter? The company that has the greatest market saturation? The company that survives longest? The company that has the best reviewed widgets by its consumers? The company with the highest stock price?

    Tell us, Polydectes, first how we measure best success in the widget business, then elaborate for us the best method by which a teacher should be judged.
     
  6. Polydectes

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    your mind is closed you don't want to accept facts.

    Absolutely. How could that be a bad idea?

    no it isn't as easy as that. But it is straight forward. We judge the performance of the student if we're looking at a math teacher see how well the students do on average who took meth with this person.

    Customer Satisfaction come on how come you don't know this.

    If customers are satisfied they returned if they're not they go elsewhere.

    the customer satisfaction.

    And did you should be judged on how well they taught their classes. Meaning how well on average the children perform.
     
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    It’s truth that people murder other people, so should we not have laws against murder?
     
  8. Polydectes

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    That's a strange statement.

    The truth that women tend to go with the status quo isn't a crime it isn't wrong it doesn't harm anybody. So the law shouldn't exist to penalize it.

    Murder is a crime murder does harm people that's why there's a law against it.
     
  9. Channe

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    I posted this same video on a thread a few months back. It is spot on.
    Islam will dominate Europe because Islam keeps its women chaste, whereas Europe has infected women with feminism.
    Ironically, feminists are more drawn to Muslim men than their beta male Europeans.
     
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    Watch the video, then comment. It's called science and evolution - which feminism will never win against. Ultimately, the first victim of feminism will be women.
     
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    The solution is deny women the right to vote in macro matters of social/political/economic matters.
    Women are not stupid, they just think differently. They do not do what is good for the tribe, so to speak.
    Polls showed that 70% of men in this country voted for Trump. There's a reason for that. Trump represents nationalism and strong cultural unity.
    Women don't care for those things.
    The very idea of open borders and political correctness is a feminine one, a weak one, and one that is doomed to lead nations to ruin.
     
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  12. Channe

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    This has been the end result of feminism for Europe;

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    The straight boys of Europe, when they become men, will either abstain from defending Europe against the tidal wave of Islam, or they will embrace it. Either way, Europe's women better start getting fitted for their burkas.
     
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  13. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    But the OP and his cronies in this thread are claiming that women are going to destroy Western civilization. Do you want to just sit by and let Western civilization be destroyed?

    Don’t you think there should be a solution?
     
  14. Polydectes

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    Well if something is only virtuous within and ideologies I would say it's likely not virtuous. If it's universally virtuous with an exception of a few really bad ideologies then it's likely virtuous.

    Patience is virtuous forgiveness is virtuous Mercy is virtuous. White knighting for some class of people debt folks think is somehow oppressed despite there being no evidence of this oppression is not virtuous. It's self-centered. And I'm suspicious that it is to cover up the virtue signalers latent misogyny in this case.
     
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    Ok, so if you believe this, how then do you ascribe ownership of social services always to government? If as you say there are no silver bullets, how then does this not also apply to the solutions and principles you support?

    Personally, I don't equate to things like "schools, hospitals, etc" to be run like businesses. I think that characterization is superficial and lacking in fundamental knowledge of what conservative thought here would ascribe. There clearly is a need for generalized education. Local control of schools, relying on local inputs is clearly different than federally mandated standardization, and yet, for you, that's just "running it like a business" even though clearly it is not. Similarly, privatized schools certainly seem to produce a higher quality product when compared to other public institutions, would you disagree? If we compared the educational quality of a place like Harvard or Stanford to what you'd get from UMass or Cal Berkeley, clearly, the market/business world prefers graduates of the former to the latter. And while not saying that the quality of graduates from UMass or Cal B are shoddy by comparison, they are not, their prestige is clearly less than those from Harvard or Stanford.

    What I perceive then is the unwillingness to see challenging or competing thought from those on the left. So, in your post, you deride the "one trick pony" approach, and yet clearly, you whole heartedly embrace the concept for your own contrivances.
     
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    So oppression and second class citizenship? What happens when women fight back against that?
     
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    I always said that conservatives hate and distrust women
     
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    LOL, they won't because it's not in their nature to. Women are naturally drawn to strong men. Why do you think feminists in Europe speak so lovelying of Islam even though Muslim men are some of the most anti-feminist and subjugating in the world ?

    You can't fight nature. Deep down, every angry white feminist is more drawn to this man

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    than this one -

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    It's pretty clear which mindset most progressive men embrace.
     
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  19. Polydectes

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    I don't think you read the op. Perhaps you simply didn't understand it.
     
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    What's your issue?
     
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    The narrator of the video is a liberal.
     
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    Western civlization has been historically anti-feminist and pro-Patriarchal. The beginning of the end for the west was when we gave women the right to vote for our leaders and cultural impact.
    It's a power women never wanted and don't care for.
    That's why women today are choosing to hand their power over (subconsciously) to the next alpha male group.
     
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    No, we love women but we believe in gender and gender roles because it is what created civilization.
     
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    Women fought for equal rights for decades and you seriously think they’ll just meekly accept their rights being stripped from them?

    I think a lot of men advocating women being second class citizens will wake up in the middle of the night with their dicks cut off.
     
  25. Channe

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    I care for Western civilization and want it to continue.
     

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