Should cops be disarmed?

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    At the time of our Founding Fathers, sheriffs and locally based constabulary existed. That is, law enforcement personnel were comprised of local people in a given community. Because of this, disputes were generally settled amicably as a deputy or a sheriff knew his community, was an integral part of it as were his father and grandfather (as will be his sons and grandsons), attended the same church/community town meetings, his children were friends along with those of the people in the police/constabulary district, and he was elected, not assigned.

    This is what we need today. Police should only work in their own community/district. This way they will always be accountable to the area they supposedly serve. That will end much of the police criminality we see today.
     
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    Like has previously been said. Remove qualified immunity and have it so settlements come out of the pension fund and you will see good cops running off bad cops at the cyclic rate. Or require all cops be bonded. Once that bond is gone they can never be a cop anywhere ever again.
     
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    You'll see the good cops leaving too, so as not to risk their future on some jury's view of what happened. Then we can just have police forces of unarmed pacifists. Criminals will just be shamed into turning themselves in. It only took 4 centuries of total subjugation to get the Japanese to do so.
     
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    Unarmed police? In the case of unarmed police in France citizens died as unarmed police had to wait for armed police!
     
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    And this works exactly how in Baltimore, Gary, East. St. Louis etc etc?
     
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  6. Turtledude

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    when I was a DOJ attorney, we reviewed police shooting cases as well
     
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    Do you know what works best IMHO ?

    1.) There are now many many retired law enforcement personnel out there now, legally Armed personnel ( LEOSA ) and this levels the playing field in the following manner.

    2.) Long list of Armed Security personnel out there.

    3.) Many legally Armed citizens with concealed carry, sometimes on the way to a range or hunting.

    When a Police Officer pulls someone over, She / He must recognize the possibility of pulling over a Lawfully Armed Person of some ilk and no longer consider any Armed person to be a potential hostile.

    The person being pulled over should set a positive slant to the encounter, hand over your drivers license and credentials / CCW and registration / insurance documents and have them in an accessible spot like the visor, an area not likely to contain anything else.

    A proper attitude helps too, rather than be adversarial and treat a Police Officer that pulls you over as "The Enemy" rather endeavor to create a professional encounter, and the results are much better.

    I have found many stops often result in a nice chat about guns and the range etc. when a person hands over their CCW and a Police Officer knows he has pulled over a person with a clean record, and often results in a verbal warning to be a safe driver and a fair thee well.
     
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    Yes !
    I forgot that important fact.
    A great help to have an independent unbiased analysis of a shooting.
     
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    You act like they protect you from criminals now.

    Anyway. What is it they always say. If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.
     
  10. Mr_Truth

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    Recall that in Ferguson, it was the elected local sheriff who made the peace. Probably because the folks knew who he was and put him into office.
     
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    What peace? Ferguson is rapidly becoming another Gary or East St. Louis. I'm surprised they're not eating each other yet.
     
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    This is nonsense. Europeans don't have gun ownership rights. You don't have unarmed cops in countries where the populace has firearms.

    What is the source of your claim that European cops are held to higher standards and have more training?
     
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    What black-majority city isn't a hell hole?
     
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    Yeah that untenable crap is starting to cause the UK problems. That may have worked under a pre-mass immigration demography, but not today's stew of third world weirdos and Islamists.
     
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    I don't think he's American and I think he's too young to understand the issue.
     
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    The fact that there are no accounts of law enforcement officers in European nations engaging in behavior that resembles anything seen in the united states.
     

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