Mind boggling at Trump supporters

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  1. Lil Mike

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    Can someone please explain to me how guys can justify supporting Franken, Conyers, and Clinton (bill) despite his boorish behavior to their mothers, wives, sisters and daughters?
     
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    Wide open.
     
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    First, we don't buy the lib smear, lies and character assasination that are loaded in your question

    Second, his view and policies on domestic and international, economic and social issues.

    Third, America First vs Globalism and Americans are despicable - this was a total no-brainer

    Foruth, anti-establishment, pro-change candidate vs a status quo, more of the same epitome of 1 percenters and ruling elites - no-brainer as well.
     
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    Do you see a difference in the way the Dems are reacting to the allegations compared to Repubs? Also, keep in mind not all sexual misconduct is the same. Forcing an unwanted kiss on a woman is not equivalent to removing the clothes of and touching a 14 year old girl at the age of 32.
     
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    You've memorized all the talking points. Well done.

    Lib smears? My understanding is many of Moore's accusers voted for Drumpf. The slight of hand being used in blaming the Wa Po is just that.
     
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    The difference I see is that Democrats will let go of someone as long as they can keep the seat Democrat. Otherwise, there are no limits to support. Clinton could have gone on a rape spree through a nunnery and he still would been supported.

    I'm a feminist. I study rape culture. And I don't want Al Franken to resign.

    I am a realist who recognizes that we get two viable choices, and Democrats are members of the only party positioned to pump the brakes on Republicans’ gleeful race toward Atwoodian dystopia.

    The lesson of the 1990's was that character doesn't count, only winning counts. So you guys on the left won that battle. Congratulations.
     
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    I find it amusing that he Left can so easily ignore the man behind the curtain and focus so intently on beer-talk and skirt chasing when the Left is a warehouse for perverts. As Moore was a Democrat when he was a bad boy, I would think the Left would want to not mention him.
     
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    And you obtained their voting records which are NOT in public domain how exactly?

    Anyway, my other 3 reasons why we support Trump - policies, pro-America and anti-Establishment are far more important.
     
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    Yep. After 25 years of doing nothing about leftist sex offenders, rapists and perverts, the dems are feigning outrage and wringing their hands, while doing nothing about their sex offenders, rapists and perverts.
     
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    Your choice of descriptive language relates to what you believe, how you interpret. That isn't a standard or fact, it's just an opinion. We find that liberal/progressive opinions hinge totally on politics and ideology- and always finding ways to disparage people they don't agree with. Positives and performance are don't count with people they don't like otherwise.

    Trump is supported because supporting traditional politicians have proved to be ineffective, less than worthless at keeping the nation strong and properly managed.
    Trump is different because he is a businessman- a manager, looking to make things happen rather than to be popular. His priority is not to make you happy on a personal basis, because that has nothing to do with the future of the nation.

    Politicians must to curry voter popularity- to get re-elected and retain power To do that they show you want you want to see- and behind the scenes, they do what they want to do.
    Freedom is not free. It takes courage to be free, and it takes the acceptance of personal responsibility- which is increasingly unpopular, and hard to sell politically.

    However the ideology of dependence is very popular and has been cultivated for many years, as people have been led to believe that they can vote whatever they want from government and somebody else will pay for it. Politicians, and sadly, people, usually take the path of least resistance. Dependence requires no personal responsibility, no productivity- and always hinges on using somebody else to get what you want. The free lunch always sells, and the weaker the people get, the easier it is to do.
    The left accepts dependence as the way of the future; they want more of it. Dependence is weakness- personally, morally and nationally.
    The right rejects it, because it destroys the strength of the nation as well as the future, and they seek to preserve it.

    The only candidate in many decades that has not been owned by the established political machine is Donald trump. Not perfect by any means; but he has already broken the mold and proven that we do not have to continue to decline.

    There are no ideal candidates, who could tell you what you want to hear, let you have what you want and get the job done at the same time.
    You can settle for selling out your great grandchildren's world for your convenience today- or building it with your productivity and contributions today.

    From Alexander Tyler, history professor at the University of Edinborough in 1787, speaking about democracy over 2000 years:

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.


    The American republic and democratic nation is now 240 years old.
    The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:


    From bondage to spiritual faith;
    From spiritual faith to great courage;
    From courage to liberty;
    From liberty to abundance;
    From abundance to complacency;
    From complacency to apathy;
    From apathy to dependence; <<---- And this is where we are right now...
    From dependence back into bondage."


    The future is coming, and we will be responsible for it.
    Step up to the plate- even if you don't like the coach.
    The coach is temporary- But America and our freedom are only temporary if the people refuse to be responsible today.
     
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    Plus immigration
    Better trade deals
    Environment
     
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    Nothing good comes from disagreeing with people rather than ideas, but the very worst things come from agreeing with people rather than ideas.
    I support Trump to the extent that I agree with his ideas.

    Also, I empathize with Trump because I have often been accused of having a good character and a bad personality. Trump has a good character and a bad personality. Hillary, the only other choice, is of a very bad character, perhaps the worst to ever seek that office.

    What frightens people about Trump is not Trump, its themselves. They are afraid that Trump will burden them with authority over and responsibility for themselves. They are afraid that Trump will not take from others and give it to them. They are afraid that Trump will tolerate what others do, or don't do, with their liberty and private property. I hope that their fear is justified.
     
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    I don't believe in the Salem Witch Hunt . If they have evidence against Roy Moore, they should aptly demonstrate it and prove their claims. Not put stipulations on verifying the yearbook. If the yearbook were legit, I'd be like "Sure, no problem." In fact, I'd have it verified before even TAKING the case lol.

    We have no evidence proving the veracity of the claims or Moore's sexual behaviors. In that case, we normally err on the side of innocence. When did we validate the Salem Witch Hunt? Because some don't like him?(I personally am not for or against, I'm not in Arkansas so it doesn't matter to me.)

    What matters to me, is that we're not worse than Trump in the misguided attempt to "stop Trump".
     
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    I agree with Trump on most of his policies, although not with all of them of course.

    The dems have veered so far to the left into the land of elitism, globalism and america hatred that i hardly agree with anything they support anymore.
     
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    They like to rape children and sexually assault women also, so he really appeals to their core values.
     
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    Liberals claim they have evidence

    But they refuse to allow forgery experts to examine the yearbook
     
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    Would you agree it is urgently vital that we do something NOW to slow global warming? Because if you do it seems to me virtually all issues take a back seat to the health of the planet.
     
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    In the case of roy moore its obvious you dont believe in the American standard of innocent until proven guilty
     
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    Global warming is not an issue i am interested in. I am more of an economic and foreign policy person.

    That being said, 10 - 15 year old "scientific" projections that haven proven to be totally false don't bode well for the credibility of the global warming claim. Lest we forget that even if it's not a hoax, that doesn't necessarily make all these bureaucratic and one sided international treaties the right solution for the world and the US.
     
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    That standard applies in a court of law, not the ballot box.
     

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