Where does this "hypermoralistic" way of thinking come from?

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Could you explain why you are bringing up Nazi's in this thread? This thread and the topic has nothing to do with Nazi's yet every time a German posts, we get multiple comments about ******n Nazis.
     
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    Adolf and his party still influence Germany and Austria to this day.
     
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    I think it is good to visit a relic camp to see the evil that humanity is capable of.

    The only prevention for future camps is an armed populace like in the USA where there are more guns than people. I own 4 guns, one for hunting and the other 3 for self defense. This makes up for the 60% of the U.S. population who do not own guns.

    The Jews can only blame themselves for either (1) not leaving German under Adolf when they still had the chance (arrogance) or (2) not arming themselves while they still had the chance (ignorance).

    Note that the USA employed camps too -- first for the Native Americans during the "Indian Wars" of the 1880's and second for the Japanese during WW2.
     
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  4. Belch

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    There's certainly something to that. Atheism has replaced religion with worshiping the state, and they feel they do "good" by praying to the government instead of God.

    I have a theory that Europe lost its balls in the last century due to two incredibly destructive wars, and that destroyed its gene pool of real men. This would account for the lowering of testosterone in men. Those men who went over the top in Verdun or froze to death at Stalingrad died, and with them, the gene for masculinity.

    What's left are the genetic equivalent of girly boys.
     
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    So every thread having to do with Germany always has to wind back to Nazi's.

    Ridiculous.
     
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    The reason they have so much support is that they are reacting to people who hate (e.g., yourself).

    It would be one thing if you argued that these people are misguided and don't appreciate that their actions may lead to bad consequences. But you take it a step further and claim that they are aware of those bad consequences but simply don't care. You claim they are evil people when you could more credibly claim they are stupid. When you do that it seems like you care less about the underlying issue and more about ******** on these people .
     
  7. Belch

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    I'd go a bit further and blame Gavrilo Princip for not just Germany, but for every damn major problem that we have now. Without him, we would have had different problems, no doubt, but he's the one guy who everything from 911 to the middle east to north korea to the muslim invasion of Europe can be directly tied to him.

    Hitler and the Nazis were the product of the first world war, and the first world war is the product of Princip.
     
  8. Sallyally

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    We are all grateful to the military, but those boys who died in the mud and snow in Europe might not fit into the money grubbing, unscrupulous world we have now.
     
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    It could be that the "money grubbing unscrupulous world we have now" is attributable to their children not being around today.
     
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    Could be.
     
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    An armed population did not szop USA from commitzing the biggest genocide in worlds history. 12 million native americans.

    I know what a concentration camp is and im aware of the history. Its just that im not interested in it. Its past and has nothing to do with me.

    And armed jews changed nothing. When they started to fight like in Warsaw, it meant their total annihilation there.
     
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    You have a far higher peecentage of "girly boys". You have a percentage of sick deluded left that would be unimaginable here. You have safe space at university and rubbish like that. Germany and Europe as a whole has a long way to go down until it reaches your level of degeneration.
     
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    Absolute nonsense.
     
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    Why do you think that? I thought it was a reasonable idea proposed by Belch.
     
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    Because Its rubbish. Almost all already had children. Both my great grandfathers (fathers of my grandfathers) served in the SS. One was even Leibstandarte Officer. Both survive war and both already had children.
     
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    My stepfathers father already had a child, but he was a bit older than most. There were plenty of 17, 18, 19 year olds who didn't have children.
    Might have been different for Germans.
    Belch's point was that they had the good bloodlines of men who had volunteered and were demonstrating superior qualities, and were thus lost to the development of the American character. (Did I get that right Belch?)
     
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    I have absolute perfect bloodline. Also Blech does not explain why USA is the most pussified country when they were almost not involved in WW II. On a sidenote deaths were much smaller in WW II than WW I for Germany and als France
     
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    No one can know with absolute certainty what composes his bloodline. the armies which invaded Europe for a thousand years must have left pure bloodlines questionable.
    The US had no desire to be dragged into European wars. Understandable.
    Germany was very fortunate then.
     
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    You obviously never heard of the massacre of the innocents. They were throwing children into the meat grinder soon after the first world war started, and they were slaughtered. As the war progressed, the age and height of recruits was reduced until any male who could hold a gun was accepted, and then drafted into the army. In Britain, women would go around shaming any male who wasn't in uniform to go and die for their country.

    And that was in the first world war. The came the second...

    No, my friend, you're wrong. Some survived, of course, but not enough to matter. Now you have a woman leading your country and not enough men to stop her from destroying it.
     
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    We were certainly involved in WW2 as well as WW1, and lost many good men during that war. You probably forget that it wasn't just a european war, but a war of two fronts between the pacific war and the european war. Germans were not part of the pacific war, but we certainly were. Then we had the Korean war, the Vietnam war, and now the middle east.
     
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    This women destroys nothing. No matter how retarded your claims are you should visit Germany before you say such stuff. Germany today rules Europe.

    Merkel reduced migration into Germany from 2015 - 2017 by 97%. Meanwhile your pathetic trump achieved nothing. Where is his wall? I cant see it.

    We have a wall now. As well as detention camps on medieterranean islands.
     
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    ha ha please. The american involvement was laughable small. We killed almost 40 million russians. 27 million of those were soldiers. Your country doesnt know what war means comrade.

    Beside that WW I and WW II were nothing compared to the 30 year war in the 16th century. Germany lost one third of its population back ten and it needed 100 years to replace this loss. Some cities got completly erased to almost down zero. WW I and WW II was nothing compared to that.
     
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    When the U.S. Cavalry was exterminating Native Americans it was out in the West and the armed American populace was trying to defend themselves from Indian raids.

    Your statement is meaningless.
     
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    Why not?

    Try proving why not.
     
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    re the hypermoralistic way of thinking... it's in most of us... we want to help others, lighten their burden... reduce their struggle... unfortunately you need to balance your national security with empathy and duty of care...therefore yes I do agree hypermorality can turn into a threat for a country, I think it's important not to swing too far towards either side.

    re the Nazi thing, years ago I was working for a company and dealt with a German company on a regular basis, the guy came to see me on a business trip and after we met one of the first things he said to me was about the "holocaust", it occurred to me that Germans must carry an enormous amount of guilt for this to be his first words since we never really touched on these issues. I think it's enough.... no more guilt. there's been many other genocides since committed by other nations, it will never change what happened, but as far as I'm concerned Germany have carried this burden long enough.... they will never be allowed to forget, but the new generation must move past the guilt
     
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