FCC plans total repeal of net neutrality rules

I live in a world where I've been working with computers since the 1960s.

You're woofing doesn't cut it.

 

If there were no excessive regulations which stop companies from competing yes I would. But it's impossible for companies to come fill a void in the market and compete because of said regulation,,,,

 

Regulations rarely stop utilities from competing...economies of scale, on the other hand, are a tremendous down pressure on any new utility.

 

I'm for free enterprise and competition when it's possible. Right now, we need to regulate telecommunications.

 

Not really

They are bloated and overpriced

Of course its government control

Government tells internet providers what to do and they comply or internet cops will shut them down

 

Government exists to solve problems we individually cannot. The only control exerted here is the will of the people demanding tyrannical ISP's not throttle connections.

The MAJORITY of people support net neutrality.

This isn't 1984 government control, but undoing net neutrality will make our country a 1984 replica, where ISP's can dictate the narrative by selling blackouts to the biggest bidder.

If you're pro competition, you have to be pro net neutrality.

Ending net neutrality only helps ISPs, which are tyrannical monopolies as it is.

 

It appears that NN will hurt competativeness for new startup ISPs

I think less government is usually better

 

I want to invest in some new technology and infrastructure sooo give me moneys please. Oh I just gave myself a 100 million dollar bonus but new technology is so expensive and all these regulations are killing me!!!

 

I disagree. NN doesn't harm competition. Net Neutrality keeps all business equal; ending it means small business start ups offering content will either have to deal with less buyers because ISP's don't fast lane them, or, they will charge more because ISP's make them pay for fast lanes.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/steven...at-your-internet-will-look-like/#69ff55f74c68

I for one have 1 option. ONE. My provider, being the only one in the entire area, will have ZERO incentive but to jack my rates and charge me for everything.

These are CABLE COMPANIES. They charge you more for shittier service. They are tyrannical. They are aiming to end competition by making themselves the paid highwaymen of the Internet.

This isn't about "more government". Jesus Christ you people repeat the same ad nausea nonsense in every thread, as if it applies blanket like to every situation.

I -almost never agree with some posters here- but even they agree with me on this.

Net Neutrality is the only thing standing between consumers and a tyrannical highwayman approach to information dissemination on the internet, and it MUST be maintained, at all costs.

 

And, heaven forbid you have internet service on a cell phone, or these tyrannical ISP's can double dip there as well.

"free marketers" are such hypocrites on this issue it is astounding.

 

Our wireless isn't isn't stable enough or fast enough to replace wired for many applications.

 

I disagree. Trump is "the swamp" and he's selling out to the cable companies.

 

Just for the lulz...


https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...le-supported-fccs-attack-net-neutrality.shtml

LULZ.

 

Pai is a piece of ****, abhuman filth and will be the most hated man in America if he allows these pseudo cable company robber barons to do this.

It's disgusting.

 

How so? The regs in place require ISPs to leave their traffic alone. Allow it to flow unimpeded.

ISPs want to impede said flow.

In what way would this make things worse?

 

Trump will pay a price for sucking up to the cable companies.

 

My goodness you really have no clue what Title II regulations applied to the internet is.

 

For a hyped problem that wasn't really a problem. I wonder if anyone really knows what they are talking about when they support NN. I would expect the left to go for more regulatory control of the internet because basically they like more regulatory central control of everything in life.

 

You haven't demonstrated any intelligence or expertise on this matter.

 

There are numerous comments on this thread from people who are objectively not part of the left and who have offered numerous reasons for supporting Net Neutrality.

In fact, the only defense points that I have seen have come from @Hoosier8 , by quoting an Ajit opinion piece, from @In The Dark Dark, by saying people should pay more (while simultaneously admitting that he solely relies on free wifi), and by @Mac-7 who just quoted the misnomer that NN is government control.

 

You haven't demonstrated there was ever a problem before 2015.

 

Applying the 1934 Title II classification to the internet is more government control.

 

Anyone who likes their cable company and its billing should love the destruction of Net Neutrality.

Hell....they will make a killing just on Porn.

 

So please, enlighten us. Maybe you'll say something this time that isn't easily disproven (like your claim regarding Fibre)

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. (https://www.cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/)

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers. (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/12/comcast-throws-16-million-at-p2p-throttling-settlement/)

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. 2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. (edit: they actually sued the FCC over this) (https://www.pcworld.com/article/170661/apple_att_fight_voip_on_iphone.html) (http://markcrispinmiller.com/2011/0...x-skype-and-other-sites-unless-you-pay-extra/)

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. edit: this one happened literally months after the trio were busted collaborating with Google to block apps from the android marketplace (https://techcrunch.com/2013/05/16/g...l-no-love-for-verizon-att-or-t-mobile-owners/)

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. (edit: they were fined $1.25million over this) ((https://www.cnet.com/news/tethering-apps-blocked-in-android-market/))

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. (https://www.theverge.com/2012/9/18/3351626/att-facetime-block-fcc-complaint-net-neutrality)

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place.(https://www.thenation.com/article/verizon-fcc-and-what-you-need-know-about-net-neutrality/)

So yeah. You do realize that Google is pretty simple to use to find stuff right? I mean, you've said a lot of stuff in this thread that is immediately disproven with a simple search. Maybe google what you say before I or someone else proves you wrong almost immediately........

 

Have to laugh, especially at this one. In case you are clueless let me clue you in. The article is from 2013. The Net Neutrality rules (title II classification of the internet) that the FCC chairman wants to overturn were implemented in 2015 by the heavily Democrat FCC.

This is what I mean when most of you really do not know what you are complaining about.