FCC plans total repeal of net neutrality rules

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  1. ChoppedLiver

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    Then you came, you saw, and you then spun.
     
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    Always take these statements and replace 'can not' with 'will not'. Truth then becomes clear.
     
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    I saw you post a alternative fact and I called you on it, no spin needed
     
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    You've got a lot more faith in government than I do. There's a reason Washington DC is packed with lawyers and lobbyists. One thing we can all agree on, we want inexpensive high speed internet. How that is best accomplished, I'm really not sure. One day we'll be getting it from satellite much like a GPS signal. It will probably further encroach on privacy, but that's a choice to be made for convenience.
     
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    I find it's easier to focus on the individual stuff, rather then the whole, as their are so many moving parts, different people, different opinions, that trying to think of it as a single entity will ultimately force you to divide-by-zero.

    This is a good example actually. Clintons Telecommunications Act? Bad. Bush designating The Internet as Title 1? Bad. Obama designating it Title 2? Good. FCC Designating Net Neutrality rules? Good. Ajit taking over FCC and removing NN? Bad.

    All done by the same 'entity' over a long period of time.
     
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    And that is the same problem new Internet companies have. Ever notice how there is often one or maybe two major providers for these services in a place? Notice how none of them have to compete?
     
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    And that is because telecom companies decided, very early on, to divide the country geographically and to avoid competing with any outside of that region.
     
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    Without a doubt I would rather every american had access to a glut of options when it comes to ISP, then the most glorious of Capitalism's mechanization would rid ourselves of needing Net Neutrality. But, until every one of my fellow Americans enjoys such a smorgasbord of options, our best option for continuing to access this digital water of the modern world is through the enshrinement of Net Neutrality though our national law.
     
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    That is the political narrative. It is largely false.
     
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    What do you mean none of them have to compete. DSL, fiber, Cable, Satellite are all options for many people. All in competition with each other.
     
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    But they don't compete. In any given area you have a handful of companies who offer the same content for the same price. Take my area for example. If you want fast Internet you have a choice between media com and dish. But you have to get a bundle. If you want dsl there are two companies. Both have the exact same speeds for the same price. There is no competition.

    Same with power. And water is even worse seeings as its only provided through the city.
     
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    Well Title II doesn't change any of that.
     
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    You'll enjoy your throttled, toll covered, limited, content censored internet then.
     
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    Which has never been a problem. The democrats on the FCC have made their opinions known against free speech on the internet and giving more central control to the FCC is not a good thing. Beware, you may get what you ask for.
     
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    I agree. There needs to be other regulations that are removed first.
     
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    I would not want to live in a country with any other government then ours, ours does fine
    yes when republicans try to sabotage a system like Republicans have with the affordable care act.. it will have issues

    course if the corporate insurance was not so bad off we would not need government to intervene

    and we all know the republicans replacement sucked so bad even republicans would not vote for it
     
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    You may notice that back in the 70s and 80s we had a healthcare system that was the envy of the entire developed world. Then the more government became involved in it, the worse it got.
     
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    So far there is nothing but hype and the fear of what could be possible.

    The internet isn't shut down, the ISPs aren't charging you more for Netflix, PornHub still comes in at 1080p.

    But there is also the hope because the voice of the people is being head loud and clear.

    So while most of these regulations are garbage and need to go, there is still a need to hammer out some critical guidelines.

    That's where we go next.

    But I'll tell you what will derail that entire train...

    ...using this as just another thing to bash Trump and Republicans with.

    The laws need to be refined and the people need a clear goal, and that goal cant be "lets hate on Trump".

    Because if it is there will be people in the public and in the government that will stand firm defending their side with no motivation to build bridges.
     
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    it was good back then, government did not change that, the corps changed that

    technology advanced and costs more too, that played a role

    will agree the war on drugs was a huge cause of price increases on medication

    we needed medicare though as the corps did not want to care for the elderly
     
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    Well, get ready for the idiocy you voted for. Let's just hand the keys to the mega corporations. They've always had the consumers' best interest in mind, right? Title 2 was an attempt to treat them like utilities, which is the smart thing to do. It would have kept the internet open and free from corporations from throttling content, charging premiums for content they don't produce, and essentially making it a freaking pay to play mess.

    Oh, yeah yeah crying about democrats. You and people like you put that fat clown into office, now you get to be screwed like the rest of us by his idiocy. Well done.
     
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    You do understand that by and large corporations in things like the medical industry came about because of governed interference in the market don't ya?
     
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    Gosh, must be why mega corporations like Google and Facebook are for NN, cause it is so bad for them.
     
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    This entire thing is avoided if trump and his brand of idiocy is kept out of power. That's not a bash on trump statement, that's a fact. Again, you've voted directly against your stated interests. it's amazing how many people trump conned into doing just that.
     
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    I think you're confused.
     
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