FCC plans total repeal of net neutrality rules

Yeah, the people in love with central control hate anything that smells of freedom.

 

Oh, you mean you have no clue about this?

 

Now you lie.

 

Remember cable/satellite TV when it came out you used to pay one modest fee for ALL channels then they figured they could have packages and have tiers of access and jack up the rates and then they colluded to largely block off access between them to many counties and locations so you had limited choice and all the same. Streaming services are the first time their monopoly met a new serious threat. The internet will be no different save the costs might go to companies wanting faster streaming not the customers but the customers will eat added costs and this will be GLOBAL. If HULU gets hit in the USA and has to pay a good deal for fast access you think they will only shaft American customers jacking rates up say $8 or will they hit all the protected markets customers and raise the costs maybe $1.50 in the US. Amazon, Netflix, Youtube and others are all going to do the same. And what if companies collude and jack rates all up you think anyone will stop them? They didn't with Cable and Satellite for the most part?

I for one am getting my butthole lubed up for the big shafting they are going to give me over my internet access.

 

everyone here can read your original post, it's was definitely an alternative fact

 

what do you mean exactly?

if your talking about the war on drugs, I agree

 

There was no con.

He's well on his way to doing everything he promised.

American life is dramatically improving, the media you digest just isn't telling you this.

As for Trump's stance on NN.

IIRC, Trump's only campaign comments (and there were very very few) regarding NN was to attack the slipped in under the rug regulation issues that would allow providers to selectively target content based on their preference rather than on a metric of consumption.

In other words, some parts of these regulations were allowing what other parts were supposed to prevent - depending upon how you gauged their impact.

This is why the entire issue should be made 100% transparent, debated in open session of Congress, and codified by simple easy to understand/apply laws passed by Congress.

No partisan internal FCC rulings, not Obama's FCC and not Trump's FCC.

The internet doesn't belong to the government, and it doesn't belong to ISPs either.

 

I'm not quite sure what that rant was supposed to mean.

Ajit Pai and Donald Trump are about to make Comcast and Time Warner's dreams come true.

So, what's your point?

 

and what has he done in the last year other then take vacations, play golf and insults people

 

Alright, prove it.

Go ahead, you seem sure of yourself. Shouldn't be hard to prove it.

 

Your arguement for net neutrality is that it prevents censorship, it prevents Dems from bribing an ISP to censor conservatives. Politically based censorship is already happening (Facebook and Google blocking conservatives), net neutrality has not stopped it.

Breitbart was blocked last year by AppNexus, it was reinstated by public backlash, not by any appeal to "net neutrality".

Conservatives are blocked all the time by Twitter, Facebook, youtube, and other sites. Conservative web sites are dropped by Googles ad service (AdSense) all the time and for no reason, youtube labels conservative content as "adult" or places a warning before viewing, Facebook adjusts its "trending" results and its news to block conservative stories.

Where is the foolishly labeled "net neutrality"? Nowhere, it does nothing to create fairness or right wrongs. NN is a scam, and you are falling for it. If nothing changes, 20 years from now you will tell people about the good old days when the internet was free of censorship.

 

Search the issue, search on something like "conservatives censored by google", or something similar. You are wildly ill informed.

 

For me to prove that to you, you must be willing to accept that it is government that is the disease and not the cure.

 

My point is both sides are wrong.

The cable companys must be smashed into tiny pieces and forced to compete.

 

Except that we aren't talking about what private companies do with the content of their websites. We are talking about how ISPs deliver access to all websites. Your making an apples to oranges comparison.

 

Cable companies are not really the problem. The real problem right now are the giant corporations that are becoming the gateway of information such as Google, Facebook, and Twitter. They are now becoming the de facto censors of the Internet. These same companies by varying degrees support net neutrality.

 

LOL, a dem congress critter, Rep. Ro Khanna, decided to post a graph supporting Net Neutrality. He shows with Net Neutrality you are forced to pay one price and without it, you can make choices and pay less.

If you want to know what a world without the misnamed Net Neutrality was like you only have to remember 2014.

 

And the red hat idiots think turning the internet over to corporations to censor and throttle information is freedom.

 

You directly voting against your interests, junior.

 

Clearly, you've been duped. Ajit Pai was appointed by trump. That makes every action he takes to dismantle the freedom of the internet squarely trump's responsibility. What did you think was going to happen by appointing a former Verizon Lawyer? Things are about to get a whole lot swampier for our primary means of information. Trump and his minions shoulder the burden of this colossal cluster F.

 

The only ones throttling information are the giant corporations like Facebook and Twitter that support NN.

 

My interests do not lie in one size fits all central control but in innovation and freedom. If you want to visualize the internet without NN just remember 2014 and all the innovation before that.

 

Ok, so confused it is. Not surprising considering your support for the man who appointed the guy directly responsible for dismantling the open, free internet we have. ENjoy your throttling, toll booths, and content censorship genius.

 

We had open free internet before 2015 or were you just born yesterday?

 

This is what you call Free and Open internet? (Lovingly stolen from Cubed's Post 374-)

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. (https://www.cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/)

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers. (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/12/comcast-throws-16-million-at-p2p-throttling-settlement/)

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. 2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. (edit: they actually sued the FCC over this) (https://www.pcworld.com/article/170661/apple_att_fight_voip_on_iphone.html) (http://markcrispinmiller.com/2011/0...x-skype-and-other-sites-unless-you-pay-extra/)

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. edit: this one happened literally months after the trio were busted collaborating with Google to block apps from the android marketplace (https://techcrunch.com/2013/05/16/g...l-no-love-for-verizon-att-or-t-mobile-owners/)

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. (edit: they were fined $1.25million over this) ((https://www.cnet.com/news/tethering-apps-blocked-in-android-market/))

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. (https://www.theverge.com/2012/9/18/3351626/att-facetime-block-fcc-complaint-net-neutrality)

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place.(https://www.thenation.com/article/verizon-fcc-and-what-you-need-know-about-net-neutrality/)

I'll take my Net Neutrality please.