A woman who gets an abortion is like an Indian giver

Awesome. You throw out the "save the children" card, then attack everyone who disagrees with you.

No, I'm not forced to use drugs or have foreign objects put into my body. Neither are you. Quit making false statements.

Your hatred leads you to making mistakes. I'm not preaching abstinence. Please stop making false claims. Nobody trusts a liar.

You keep implying I'm a misogynist. I'm obviously not. Are you a man-hater? A Lesbian? Psychologically unstable? Why are you so emotionally worked up about this that you hate people who are trying to agree with many of your points?

 

I thought you could answer questions....ooops, couldn't...

 

why does the right hate Indians?

 

Many women are

Those in abuse relationships those trapped by culture or religion

 

If she is a growing teen a pregnancy hole even more risk as the baby must compete for sustenance with the growing body of the mother

 

it should be a felony to force a child to give birth

if they are old enough to be a parent, they are old enough to decided not to be a parent

 

That IS one way to look at it.

 

I find the thread title to be offensive. Indian giver?

 

Do you enjoy supporting unwanted children? Which is cheaper: a $700 abortion or paying $30,000/year to keep an asshat in prison for 20 to life?

 

ROFL. I did but you obviously cannot.

In my studies, women who hate men (or men who hate women) are often either abused by an opposite sex parent, trapped in a loveless marriage or homosexual. Hate is a strong emotion and strong emotions often have a traumatic basis of origin.

 

as long as you do not want to choose for them and feel it's their choice rather then the governments, I am good with that

 

I support their choice. I even support low cost abortions. I just don't support being forced to pay for the actions of reckless or stupid people. I believe in accountability. I support what a Surgeon General once said: "Abortions should be safe, legal and rare".

That said, despite the whining from the far right, I doubt there are many women who have abortions every six months. Most have one in their lifetime.

http://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/
WHO HAS ABORTIONS?

• In 2013, unmarried women accounted for 85.2% of all abortions (CDC).
• Women in their 20s accounted for the majority of abortions in 2013 and had the highest abortion rates (CDC).
• Adolescents under 15 years obtained .03% of all 2013 abortions; women aged 15–19 years accounted for 11.4% (CDC).
• Percentage of 2013 Reported Abortions by Age of Mother (CDC):
• 
  <15 years 15–19 years 20–24 years 25–29 years 30–34 years 35–39 years ≥40 years
  0.3% 11.4% 32.7% 25.9% 16.8% 9.2% 3.6%
• Women living with a partner to whom they are not married account for 25% of abortions but only about 10% of women in the population (NAF).
• In 2013, women who had not aborted in the past accounted for 55% of all abortions; women with one or two prior abortions accounted for 36.2%, and women with three or more prior abortions accounted for 8.8% (CDC).
• Among women who obtained abortions in 2013, 40.2% had no prior live births; 45.6% had one or two prior live births, and 14.1% had three or more prior live births (CDC).
• Black women were 3.75 times more likely to have an abortion in 2013 than white women (CDC).
• The abortion rate of non-metropolitan women is about half that of women who live in metropolitan counties (NAF).
• The abortion rate of women with Medicaid coverage is three times as high as that of other women (NAF).
• In 2014, 30% of aborting women identified themselves as Protestant and 24% identified themselves as Catholic (AGI).

 

A twitter twumpster started it.

 

Roy Moore comes to mind... let's see how much the south cares

 

Thank you for the unnecessary explanations of why you feel the way you do about women.

Did NOT answer my question : Are YOU forced to use drugs or put foreign objects in YOUR body? Does that make YOU stupid?

 

I like that respect for women , that if they get pregnant it means they are all stupid. Of course a man who doesn’t wear a condom, isn’t stupid. Maybe a man who gets a woman pregnant should have a forced vasectomy
I guess people who are driving too fast and have an accident should have their cars taken away from them permanently

 

Whaat do you mean you Pay taxes for these women who have abortions? I think there is a little prejudice going on here with the assumption that all women who have abortions must be poor.
Women don’t consciously use abortion as birth control. Do you think women say, “I won’t use any birth control because I could just get an abortion and go through the cramping and the bleeding and the expense”
Gee, You’re lucky that you never had spontaneous sex or careless sex in your life. So many of us have. I guess we are just stupid. I bet you don’t think you’re very judgemental

 

Well let's abort the asshats in prison then.

 

It’s not about the money ..

 

Guttmacher has more accurate stats AND they are quoted by both sides

https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states

One of the more glaring recent results has been the falling abortion rate

 

The largest percentage of those women having abortions are mothers (59%) and 75% were living BELOW the federal poverty level

• Some 75% of abortion patients in 2014 were poor or low-income. Twenty-six percent of patients had incomes of 100–199% of the federal poverty level, and 49% had incomes of less than 100% of the federal poverty level ($15,730 for a family of two).*[6]

https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states

 

Are you implying that because the death of “zefs” sometimes happens naturally there is no need to be concernd when “zefs” are killed deliberately? Isn’t that the same as saying because some fully developed humans die naturally we shouldn’t be concerned about the ones who are killed deliberately?

 

And what should we do about all the “unwanted” children born out of wedlock today? The ones in foster care, or homeless, or living in abusive home situations? Should we kill them too? Think of all the money we could save in taxes and we can clean up the dregs of society while we’re at it.

 

You're going to abort a three strikes car thief or an embezzler? Got to prison for an execution regardless of the crime like the Chinese do? A $500 abortion in the womb is cheaper and better for all in the long run. I'd even advocate giving a woman $30,000 to have her tubes tied and a man $10,000 for having a vasectomy. Cheaper in the long run for American taxpayers.

 

Thanks. I understand your eagerness to be correct, but if you read my link it started with "Primary, nationwide abortion statistics for the United States are available from two sources—privately from the Guttmacher Institute (AGI) and publicly from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). "