Seems Trump people totally disregarded Trump's tweets this morning

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  1. truth and justice

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    He was a member of BNP and EDL the parties that went on to form Britain First. His likes were KKK and White Supremacist groups.
     
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    She said that she supports Aryan Radio and gave a long interview. Have you looked at what Aryan Radio are about?
     
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    I’m afraid that though you didn’t vote for Trump doesn’t alter the fact that he is your President, if its any consolation I would have chosen Sanders. Hatred of Trump himself doesn’t make any contribution to the debate, we are discussing his actions as the President.
    To answer your question-- So now ever internet communication is recorded, every text, phone call, and how many terror attacks has that stopped?
    Do you really think that a nation’s intelligence organisation is going to tell the public in detail of how many attacks it has prevented? You can know only when the police come knocking on doors and arresting the occupants, it happens frequently in the UK. Also the British government will never comment on the deployment or actions that its special service units- the SAS etc are engaged in. Probably American special services share the same cloak of secrecy. Are both in North Korea at this moment, we don’t know and maybe we will never know.
     
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    I sure do think they will brag on how many they prevented. Not like they would be giving out their means, which is where the secrecy lies. We sure found out about the people they set up, and supplied the means to conduct the attack. This is the kinda of attacks they stopped, ones they set up themselves, with probably mentally slow young muslim males.

    Sure he is my president, regardless of if I voted for him or not. I just did not help to elect him. I would never have cast my vote for hillary. She has the knowledge and the skills, to have done some things that might make trump look like nothing more than a petulant child. And, unlike trump, she would do what she wanted to do, i.e. another invasion of a nation like Libya, and tell her generals to go suck eggs. Trump seems to listen to his advisors. Except when it comes to his mouth or his tweets. While congress made sure he would not work with russia, on anything!
     
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    Not the same thing at all, and not remotely relevant to me anyway. In my country we didn't have racial segregation, and nor do we have the democrats.

    There has always been a small fringe of fascism in the UK. As is often the nature of such groups, they argue amongst themselves, disband, change names, and people move from one to another. They never gain any traction, though, because the vast majority of people tend to see them quickly for what they are. Sometimes they try to make themselves look kind of 'respectable' and gain enough of a following to win a council seat or two somewhere (BNP under Nick Griffin were probably the most successful at that), but that usually falls apart quite quickly when they gain a little bit of a public platform and start actually speaking. It's not a party name that binds them together, but the ideology of fascism itself.
     
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    'Terrorist' isn't quite the correct term, I would say, but certainly violent and aggressive global Imperial acquisitionists, and also cultural supremacists in the process. Most of them have moved beyond that, despite the idiocy of a few remaining little fringe groups who still believe that they've won every war they've ever been in single handed, and that they are somehow 'culturally superior' as a result of widespread killing and oppression in the past. Those groups are generally treated with the contempt they deserve, though.
     
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    We aren't. We're welcoming people (many of whom come from countries that previously suffered under the UK's own, and UK supported, oppressive dictatorship, of course) who want to make a positive contribution to our society, culture and economy (which they are doing), and we're welcoming people who are fleeing war and oppression in their own country (which is often at least partly the UK's fault anyway, of course). That's what decent human beings do, especially in a historically multi-national, multi-cultural, outward-looking, internationalist and international melting pot of a society like the UK has always been. The vast majority of us welcome them, the vast majority of them are making a positive contribution, and the vast majority of both are getting on pretty well and just trying to live our lives together in peace.

    A few ignorant, misled idiots on both sides are trying to start a fight, of course, but that's what ignorant, misled idiots always do - the rest of us are fine, though, apart from when we get caught in the crossfire between competing groups of ignorant, misled idiots, and then we are as angry with the idiots who claim to be on our 'side' as we are with those who call themselves our 'enemies'.
     
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    Those will work too :) But I always get a smile out of Europeans preaching about oppression, terrorism and things like bigotry, when they all were realized and practiced extensively by the English for centuries.. To this day they are still despised by neighboring countries, history, she is a bitch as they say :) I mean there is brutality and there is British brutality, some of the practices of torture "In the name of GOD mind you" that England devised and publically practiced while it's citizens cheered on as entertainment was nothing short of sadistic! How does a culture actually ever quite shake that from their Psyche?

     
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    Most big European countries were pretty bad. Some were worse than others.

    Understanding that history is the best way to avoid repeating it.
     
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    I think you are badly misinformed. Fascism is an ideology that is based on socialism and leftist totalitarianism.
     
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    Well understanding history and a good swift kick in the ass turned out to be the winning strategy for pushing the English back to there Island ;)
     
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    Ah, that old chestnut. That is factually incorrect, as any historian will tell you.
     
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    They don't have an island that is 'theirs'.
     
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    So just surrounding your country. Sad!
     
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    Nope. Nobody's surrounding our country. We're doing fine, thanks, despite what your idiot president seems to think. Maybe if Trump stopped believing that news which doesn't just confirm his own irrational prejudice must therefore be 'fake' he'd have a better grasp of reality. Sad!
     
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    This is very sad. Europe should stay European.
     
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    It is doing. Just as European as it's always been. I've not seen anyone suggest uprooting it and moving the entire continent to a different continent or anything!
     
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    Yes sir, if I were in your shoes I'd go with grammar police too.. It's a far cry stronger than humanitarian or morality consultant ;)
     
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    Not sure what grammar is supposed to have to do with anything.
     
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    Nice sentence structure ;)
     
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    Cute. Europe is for whites and should stay that way. You people have no idea what you're doing.
     
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    Lets not be coy with one another ok :)

     
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    No, it isn't. It never has been. It's a place where people live, and it's never been exclusively restricted to 'white people'.

    And nor should it be. And thankfully the vast majority of Europeans are perfectly happy that it isn't, as they always have been.
     
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    That comment was nothing whatsoever to do with grammar. It was related to the English not having an island.
     
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    Total b*******
     

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