Does atheism poise a safety risk to Christians?

Fortunately, atheists are not 'dangerous' to persons who claim allegiance to a religious belief.
Now, moving on, just a friendly bit of advice which you have surely read before:

 

Another person claiming there is no danger at all when Christians are mass murdered by an atheist specifically because they are Christian.

So, are then all mass murders literally no foul-no harm to you, or just mass murder of Christians?

Nazism was a nationalistic political system merging government, industry and the military in a composite socialistic-capitalistic system. Therefore, Nazis were dangerous to no one. Any deaths caused by Nazis had no relationship to Nazis themselves or the ideology. That's your logic, correct?

 

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I have no clue what that means nor ever read that before. You're a smart guy. Being you also are apparently the self-declared Biblical scholar, explain it to me and how that relates to this topic of the mass murders specifically of Christians by atheists whose motivation was to kill Christians, only Christians - and how that verse prove those murdered were never in any danger.

 

I not know who you are referring to. This atheist you reference... did he make a big deal out of mass-murdering Christians somewhere because they were Christians, or because he was an atheist? I'm not trying to insult you, twist your words, or hammer you down like some people might, but I quite honestly am unfamiliar with the event itself that you are describing.

 

Sorry for what I threw at you in my last message. It was wrong and unjust. I know that is not how you see it.

I believe that is what the examples in my OP are. It isn't someone did a mass murder happening coincidentally being an atheist and the victims coinicidentally being Christian.

 

No problem at all! Probably all just a misunderstanding, and I didn't really make myself clear to you.

In a way, I can't blame atheists for being so reflexively defensive and hyper-reactive as many of them are to nearly any kind of criticism -- both real and imagined. That's part of why I've repeated, over and over, that I certainly do not regard atheists, per se, as a 'threat' to Christians, or to adherents of any other religions. Atheists are often attacked, cursed, and reviled in our society -- often for no reason other than what they believe. Truthfully, I have never personally known a violent, vicious, murderous atheist, but I can think of some 'religious' people living among us today who do exhibit those attitudes and behaviors. Radical, violent Muslims come immediately to mind....

Lastly, I am certainly not a Bible expert, but the "pearls before swine" quote is fairly well-known among most Christians, coming from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, and, it's actually pretty good council. Cheers!

 

That was YOUR "LOGIC" that I was using.

Thanks for recognizing the fallacy of your own illogical fallacy!

 

You have not proven any "mass murder" of Christians by atheists so yes, it is entirely in your own imagination and nowhere else.

 

Please do not say I am anti-all religious people. Some of the most wonderful people I know are religious and some of the worst people I know are religious. Some of the best people I know are atheists and some of the worst people I know are atheists. I am opposed to religion when it is imposed on me. As a teacher I would not take part in a school prayer because there were children who were not Christian and I thought it wrong. But what I hated most about religion was the malls were closed on Sunday but thank goodness that changed

 

This account has been refuted by eyewitnesses and investigators. The killers attacked indiscriminately. They did not target Christians for being Christian.

He asked them if they were Christian and told them they were going to heaven if they were. He also killed an agnostic and a pagan.

He targeted his family's church and had a history of violence against his family.

You have, at most, 3 examples. 3. And those examples are questionable.

 

What? I suspend logic, if that's what @Renee wants to call it. There were lots of folks buried with things prior to historical records that can easily be considered religious or talismanic. I use what is called faith. It isn't logical. I would not be able to explain.

Sorry for any trouble she gave you.

 

Can you list when religion is imposed on you?

Were those who were not religious supposed to pray along or were you concerned they would be teased? Might have been a good opportunity to teach tolerance, rather than discrimination.

I think it was great that places were closed one day per week. I feel bad that it wasn't the Sabbath, but I'm sure there is a way to accommodate all without it being to much of an issue, no?

I think we justify atheism so that we don't have to feel guilty. I think we justify religion to feel righteous. Online, it seems the opposite.

 

I remember as a kid having prayer in school with Jesus being mentioned and I was not Christian and I felt out of place and uncomfortable and no child should feel that way in school. We teach tolerance all the time but making children feel uncomfortable should never be part of the curriculum.Religion has as much places in school as algebra does in church.
You may think it’s great that places are closed one day a week, but that should be the decision of the place not the church

 

I wish no child felt out of place or uncomfortable, too, but that is a life lesson which should be easily confronted and learned from.

When do we teach tolerance and how? What lessons are learned and how would that help or harm?

Oh, I didn't realize it was part of your curriculum. I'm not that old, or it wasn't done when I was in public school. I can see it being an elective. The church didn't decide that. They encouraged it, though. There were good folks then who went to church and believed in what they studied and whom they worshipped. They believed there should be one day for rest and praise. I don't remember anyone forcing anyone to praise, but only take the rest. I thought it was nice knowing it was on a certain day, since one could plan for a rest somewhere nice and not worry about it being a day that could be taken from you by a boss, business, manager, or someone else who used you all week. I say used, but after all, they really do use you to make a profit. If you don't make them more than they spend on you, you won't have one long. So, now, you can feel like you have to go to work.

Do you see how it simply switched from one thing to another, and we lost out?

 

Where? You gave a grand total of 3 examples, and all 3 were questionable.

 

What a bunch of weird!! Having the Truth about Life being freely given in Public places is not a crime. It is free education. Scientists and other science fields should do the same thing. But rather than show signs that are untrue, such as 'Science has proven that homosexuality is inbred in the mind/brain of individuals', they should have signs that show the Truth, such as, 'Dr. Simon Levay warned against thinking that he, Dr. Levay, concluded or found that homosexuality is inbred in the mind/brain of certain individuals'.

Or instead of having a sign which reads, 'Christopher Columbus' Discovery of America is fully documented', the sign could read, 'Christopher Columbus did not discover The Contiguous U.S. States' areas of land. Rather he discovered South and Central America'.

These sorts of signs would provide Truth to those who want to receive free education. Why 'lie' to those who are interested in learning?

And rather than having a sign which reads, 'The United States is America. Let's help make America Great again', the sign could read, 'There are 55 Independent Countries and 55 Independent 'Constitutions' in America. The United States is only 1 of those 55 Independent Countries'.

How the rest of the America(s) are viewing The United States might be appalling to them and to the Faithful U.S. citizens.

Noone enjoys being clumped together and associated with 'wrong doers' involuntarily. That could cause many future unrightful troubles.

'If I didn't sign up for trouble, why should I receive troubles'???

Joining in with the 'wrong' in The U.S. will have the retributions of wrong spread out evenly among all those 'wrong doing' groups.

Keep in mind that there is a Galactic Difference between man's Judgments and God's Judgments. Law keepers keep to their Land's written Law whereas God judges with His written Law.

Noone should expect 'man' to Judge as God would and noone should expect God to Judge as 'man' would.

 

So you have any idea how silly you sound? The Christians were complicit Unless of course you consider all the Jews who survived the Holocaust were all liars. It might also interest you to know that atheists were slaughtered as well. I also guess those good Christians who slaughtered Native Americans were also atheists in disguise

 

Hitler’s own words from his writings
HITLER

“Besides that, I believe one thing: there is a Lord God! And this Lord God creates the peoples.” [1] ~Adolf Hitler

“We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations; we have stamped it out” [2] ~Adolf Hitler

 

Then why so you suppose the pope apologized years later for the deal with hitler?
Stop trying to make yourself a victim. Christians were not killed for just being a Christian. Why would anybody even be able to project that we would want all Christians mass murdered? Stop projecting those evil thoughts on to others

 

Don't know, don't care what some Pope apologized for or why.

How am I trying to make myself a victim? It is clear that in your view and many other's views that anyone who does not join in condemning Christianity and Christians therefore must be one. Do you take that same stance towards anyone who supports women's rights must be a female, supports gay rights must be gay and civil rights must be non-white?

 

That's incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Poland
The Catholic Church in Poland was brutally suppressed by the Nazis during the German Occupation of Poland (1939-1945). Repression of the Church was at its most severe in Polish areas annexed by Nazi Germany, where churches were systematically closed and most priests were either killed, imprisoned, or deported. From across Poland, thousands of priests died in prisons and concentration camps; thousands of churches and monasteries were confiscated, closed or destroyed; and priceless works of religious art and sacred objects were lost forever. Church leaders were targeted as part of an overall effort to destroy Polish culture. At least 1811 Polish clergy died in Nazi concentration camps. An estimated 3000 clergy were killed in all. Hitler's plans for the Germanization of the East saw no place for the Christian Churches.

 

You believe everything Trump says too, right? In YOUR opinion, to know what Trump truly thinks and believes you only have to listen to his speeches and read his tweets - 100% pure truthfulness. Or is it just Hitler you completely believe?

Virtually all politicians in Christian majority countries profess Christianity. So did Obama, though he only condemned Christianity and only praised Islam. Virtually no politicians are practicing Christians, act like Christians nor any other reason to believe them. Most people have figured out politicians lie including how they represent themselves and what they say about religion. If the overwhelming majority of voters were Muslim, most elected officials would say the word "Allah" a lot. If most voters were atheists, they would no longer say "God bless America."

Nazism was not a religion nor founded in Christianity and you know that. Why do people think by slinging out "Hitler" means they then win? 99.9% of the time the topic has absolutely NOTHING to do with Hitler.

 

They are claiming that all Christians - but no atheists - should have all been slaughtered in all of Europe in opposition to Hitler. Atheists had no obligation to oppose Hitler in their opinion, nor Muslims or anyone else but Christians. The fury is that not enough Christians, specifically Catholics, were sent to death camps.

And, of course, they will constantly tell the lie that all Germans knew about the holocaust - which is an outright lie. In fact, the German SS and Hitler did all they could to cover it up, nor was it ever official policy.

SS at holocaust camps failed when they claimed they were just doing their job and if they defied ordered they would be court martialed or shot. In fact, the trials proved that if any German soldier - SS or otherwise - refused to work in a death camp or demanded a transfer it was granted. The reason was that the German military was very formal on court marshals and it could not be brought up in trial since per the government and military there were no death camps, just "internment camps for the purpose of protecting Jews."

If death camps were Christian, they would have had a chapel and Christian minister in service for the guards and troops. None did.

What "Christians" did in relation to Nazism and Hitler was to sacrifice tens of thousands of lives to destroy Nazism - and then upon occupation literally outlaw it. Did the USA occupation outlaw "Christianity" like they are claiming Nazism was? Of course not. Just the endless desperation thinking of using "Hitler" then wins for their side.

Whenever anyone starts claiming one side is like "Hitler," you know they lost the debate on both facts and logic.

 

Nazism was not founded in atheism, and you know that.