Is it atheist to hate god?

Since when is We the People a tyranny?

 

Oh brother!

/facepalm

 

Yet more puerile ad homs and trolling personal attacks because you cannot defend your own hypocrisy.

When it comes to theist beliefs there is nothing to "fact check" since dogma does not have a factual basis.

In addition I recommend that you research how the ignore feature actually works.

 

Oh, the IRONY!

 

Religion by definition does not rely on reason to exist and when an Atheist points this out its adherents tend to see it as insult or, in your case "Hatred".

 

It's just a very poor apologetic that is trying to put the label 'hater' onto atheists, ironically for obviously hateful reasons. When you can produce no good reason to believe what is left but the old cliche, 'they hate us for our belief'.

 

Let me guess; under 25, some college, leans toward anarchism, feels the world owes him something. How close am I?

Now you do me.

 

A slight disagreement. Yes, religion does rely primarily on faith, but if religion is seen as a tool toward spiritual enlightenment, not just a dogma to be recited without question, then one can see reason does play a part.

Your assumption of hate in the face of people like @Guno and @Arjay51 is interesting. We're all free to choose our own paths, but I'd recommend not taking the path of hatred.

 

On all atheists? Correct. On some of the people on this forum who constantly ridicule and mock anyone who has religious beliefs? Not so much.

 

Humans seem to have three components; the physical, the mental and the spiritual. The physical and even mental aspects can be studied and the rules of the natural universe applied to them. The spiritual, needless to say, is much fuzzier. Common questions about existence can't be easily answered unless one simply believes we're all ambulatory meat computers wandering around for a few years reacting to biochemical programming. The fact the Universe had a definite beginning and appears to be expanding forever begs the question of whence it came.

I don't believe in a "personal God", one that hands out presents if one prays fervently enough, but I definitely believe there is a power behind the creation of the Universe and that this power is intelligent.

 

Accord to who's judgement? Yours? If so, then why are you exempt from ridicule and mocking for your beliefs? The fact that both ridicule and mocking are a form of aggression, even hatred, helps show why there is animosity between some atheists and theists with no end in sight.

 

According to basic human compassion and reason.

. . . what? Where did I ever claim that my beliefs are exempt? What are you talking about? No, my beliefs are not exempt from mocking and ridicule, nor should they be.

So is the doctrine of hell.

 

"Spiritual" enlightenment seems to me hampered by religion as it immediately places limits upon mental expansion. Dogmatic living places blinders that often prevent growth and understanding in my experience (which is relatively expansive).
I have found the Buddhist philosophies to be helpful but also somewhat limiting. Even this can be something of a burden placed on enlightenment.

 

Dude, I can see how a person of your demeanor believes that ridicule and mocking of others is "basic human compassion and reason". However, I strongly doubt you'd consider it compassionate or reasonable if someone did it to you.

So you agree that it's resonable for others to mock and ridicule your beliefs?

Hell is can be interpreted in many different ways. I'm presuming you're going after the modern Christian Evangelical or Baptist version? If so, this is proof of my earlier observation; atheists usually go after the Christian religion, not Muslim or Jewish.

 

One analogy to religion is studying martial arts. It's a means of self-defense, physical fitness and teaches self-discipline. There are many versions of martial arts. Most ancient ones are peaceful, but some people use it to harm others.

Buddhist philosophies vary. I'm partial to Zen over Theravada and other Mahayana branches for the reason you intimated; too much dogma.

 

Not being understood and refusing to understanding it are two different things. One is a lack of knowledge, the other is intentionally ignoring anything that disputes and disproves their world view.

 

You "gave" your version of theology in spite of the fact that theology is just a manmade construct but you expect everyone to buy into it on your say so. Talk about inflammatory and no basis in reality. Then you accuse me of the very tactics that you employee so ineffectively and site Christian theology as substantial backing of your position even though is lacks proof and has changed countless times over the year.

All of this would indicate that you live in fairytale land and have no desire to hear the truth.

Go back to your sandbox and continue playing.

 

So far away that you are not even on the same planet.

As for you, egotistical, self important, never one to admit an error and never left the sunday school mentality behind.

 

Resorting to unprovable philosophic terms to backup religion lacks a certain thing called logic, or proof if you prefer. It only plays a part because children are trained from a young age to believe in this nonsense and remain children on the subject, unless they grow up to think for themselves and become atheists.

 

Any proof of these "beliefs" of yours pertaining to a super intellect in the universe? From observation, the universe is in the process of destroying itself. How intelligent is that?

 

I agree with your statement. One of the irksome things about "atheists" is that they often focus entirely on Christians or the Christianity as the thing to kick against. There are other religions who followers also do the same anti social things.

Oddly, when there is a questioning or refutation of any religion by atheists, or others, the religion in question will respond by painting those detractors as evil, or part of the evil of the world attempting to destroy their 'correct' religion.

Circles upon circles.

 

Nice exaggeration. I'm guessing I'm a lot closer than you'd care to admit since you didn't correct me.

Wrong, but thank you for your assessment. I'm pushing 62 and am in upper management of a highly technical field, so, yes, sometimes I come off as arrogant to people of lesser intelligence, education and experience, but I'm not egotistical or self-important. Please don't confuse confidence with "self-importance". I've been lucky in life and am humble enough to accept that I didn't do it alone nor on sheer skill. A lot of luck was involved too. Failing to admit error is a mistake, one I work hard to avoid. You and I are discussing beliefs which cannot be proven, not engineering. There is not right or wrong therefore there is no error to admit. The fact you claim there is says something about your mentality. I'm not religious and haven't been to Sunday school since junior high school. Good luck with your attitude, kid. Seriously. Good Luck.

 

I wonder how intelligent it is to take a huge risk that there is no God? Life is very short in terms of eternity. I think a life of charity is probably more satisfying than a life of "I, me, mine", and deep hatred for anything which I do not believe in. I don't hate Santa or Rudolph, but I don't believe in them, either. I don't argue against their existence because I know it's silly to argue about something make believe. I could only argue for or against children's continued belief in them. I think it's bad, but it sure was fun when I was a child. I don't think it hurt me. Of course, God isn't Santa and he expects more from each of us than Santa ever will.

 

There is no proof just like there is no proof of what happened prior to the Big Bang or why it happened.



Happy Festivus, kid.

 

There is no risk, IMHO. It depends upon how one lives their life. Look at Bill Clinton; a standard sin on Saturday, repent on Sunday Christian. There are good people of all religions (or not) around the planet. If God is truly all loving, all merciful and all knowing, how could such a God condemn good people just because they aren't Christians or even religious?