Islam scholar in Norway-We want to bring light to Europe so Europeans decide that they want Islam ..

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    I do not live in Germany.
    Retared ?
     
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    All I'm saying is that there's a lot more Muslims in Europe than you seem to believe.
     
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    The vast majority of Muslims in Europe do not want to 'take over' European society or convert Christians to Islam. Extremists are in the minority. Don't let people like tha frighten you. They are like the KKK, white supremacists, or the Westboro Baptist Church.
     
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    How many Christians still exist in ME countries?

    How many were there 25 years ago in ME countries?
     
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    Do you do any reading besides on here? Note that the average European country has a 5-7% Muslim population. That is not much. "The exact number of Muslims in Europe is unknown. According to estimates by the Pew Forum, the total number of Muslims in Europe is about 44 million, 6% of the total population."
     
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    Christians now make up 10%-15% of the Middle Eastern population. That's more Christians in the Middle East than Muslims in Europe. In Europe, Muslims are 5-6 percent of the population; in the Middle East, Christians are 10-15% of the population. Why are you so afraid? Why so uninformed? Why blame the entire population of Muslims on terrorists? The vast majority of Muslim people do not support terrorism and are as afraid of it as you are.
     
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    Oh, please.

    MEMRI translates speeches by politicians, renowned Islamic scholars and other well known personalities. If all those translations weren't accurate, at least some of those thus discredited would have sued MEMRI, or at least would have protested publicly. None did. Why?

    Of course we should be wary of viewing the entire Muslim world through the narrow lens of the MEMRI translated texts only. Nevertheless, the dangers posed by extremists shouldn't be underestimated. The first and most numerous victims of Islamic extremism are the Muslims themselves.
     
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    And it will be double what it is now in 2050, according to Pew.
     
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    Wrong. Egypt alone had over 4 million Christians in 2010.

    Today there are about 90k left.
     
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    This is wrong. The number of terrorists is indeed small compared to the entire population,
    but it takes a whole village to raise a terrorist.
     
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    Yes, at first I thought the man was just trying to get Muslims integrated into their host societies. Then I remembered I already saw his name mentioned several times. He's Salafi. A quick search revealed that he's as extremist as any ISIS member. His appeal to spreading Islam by peaceful means is hiding a hideous ideology.

    From his speech at an Islam.net’s 2013 event in Norway:
    http://hurryupharry.org/2014/12/31/yusuf-chambers-and-haitham-al-haddad-at-islam-net/

    The video of the speech was posted by Islam.net on youtube. The quoted text begins at 1:00:31.

    Haitham al-Haddad delivered sermons at the al-Muntada al-Islami mosque in London. Here's a sample:
    He's clearly not pushing for Muslims' integration into their host societies, but for non-Muslims' assimilation into Islam. The final goal is no different from ISIS' - a global Islamic caliphate.
     
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    Egypt is AFRICA. It is not the Middle East.
     
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    What a ridiculous thing to say, much less think. The vast majority of Muslims do not endorce or agree with terrorist thinking or activity. They are ordinary people. You are unenlightened.
     
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    I'd suggest you learn the basics of talking in forums before posting here.
    rule 1: attacking others is not legal and also reduce your argument to oblivion.

    Now for each such terrorist there are father and mother, grand parents, brothers and sisters, teachers, friends, influential figures.
    For each such terrorist to perform his act there are complecits. many people are involveds in logistics for such an operation. each one of them has mother father, grandparents, brothers.....
     
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    Who said anything about terror ??
    The Islamization of Europe can be described as " Convect to Islam or ... "
     
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    Rereconquista...
    Feminists are welcome to fight for their freedom against a new rival.
     
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    You're wrong. You're just wrong. You don't know this, you're just guessing. No proof whatsoever. You read propaganda and you believe it because you want to. And saying something is ridiculous and that someone is not enlightened is not an attack.
     
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    'The Islamization of Europe' is a propaganda phrase. You are being manipulated to hate through propaganda: no different than a kid being manipulated by propaganda to do terrorism. Same thing; two sides of the coin.
     
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    While I've never read the Koran it can't be too much worse than reading this thread.
     
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    This is not about hate.
    This about millions illegaly entering Europe and changing into Arabia
     
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    Yes, but only because there was no need to?

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    :roll: The 'refugees' (note inverted commas?) probably couldn't believe what they were witnessing when they arrived and saw sights like the above all over Europe? 'useful idiots/the enemy inside', and mostly females!
     
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    The clue is in the word 'east' - it's the liberal west that's fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. I say again - how they must be laughing at us.
     
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    They are not illegals, and they are not changing it into Arabia. For one thing, most Muslims are not from the Middle East. "While many people, especially in the United States, may associate Islam with countries in the Middle East or North Africa, nearly two-thirds of Muslims live in the Asia-Pacific region. In addition, not all Arabs are Muslims." As far as the global Muslim population, about 20% live in the Middle East and North Africa. Out of the entire 1.57 billion Muslims in the world, only 20% live in the Middle East and North Africa. The other 80% are not Arabs. Most are Asians from the Asia-Pacific region. You are just ill-informed. The other point is that the vast majority of those living in Europe are from families who have been there for generations or who are ordinary people just wanting an ordinary life: they are not zealots, extremists or terrorists. You are being manipulated by propaganda.
     
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    How can anyone write such a sentence ?
    There are hundreds of thousands Muslims staying illegally in Europe.
     
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    So you want to punish Poland for doing what you claim Merkel is doing?

    Poland > Merkel
     
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