Tax cuts for middle class are temporary

13 million poorer folks will lose their health care, the debt will increase even faster, so m/billionaires who already have taken virtually all the economic growth since 1981 can get even a higher portion of the nation's income and wealth.

This is a happy day for conservatives.

 

Obama inherited the worst recession in 80 years that drove the deficits, which fell dramatically while he was in office.

Republicans, who pretended they cared about the debt until Jan 20, 2017, are unnecessarily and irresponsibly running up the deficits and more debt to pander m/billionaires.

Hypocrites.

 

Uhm they will lose their health care because they don't ****ing want it .

Talk about spin..

 

And who do you think will be subsidizing them when they go to emergency rooms when they don't have health care?

 

Of course, because in RW propaganda world, its a myth that no one can afford health care.

 

Talk about hypocrites, you guys wanted to pay higher taxes in the blue states, well now you got your wish

 

What propaganda..?


You get rid of the mandate, people will say heck with health insurance and go take a vacation to the Bahamas..

 

so make the corp tax cuts temporary too, now republicans will use this carrot twice.... what does America have to give the rich to have these tax cuts extended next time?

if the corp tax cuts were also temporary, then I would be sure the republicans would support extending it.. as is, republicans could care less if it's ever extended

 

Well let's see, Obama made over 80% of bush Jr tax cuts perment, guess which ones he didn't?

 

Ill pass on the chemo. Theres no money in curing cancer, only in treating it. Ill go for the illegal cures, and those are not at the hospital.

 

LOL, I really shouldn't ask, but what are those "illegal cures" that are not at the hospital?

 

Another "responsible" conservative. Takes a vacation instead of having health insurance.

Then, when he gets sick or breaks his leg, he'll go to the emergency room and sticks the bill to the rest of us.

It is written here for all to see. bear513 is probably the 5th or so right winger on this forum who openly admits to their irresponsible ways. of course, there are probably more, who just are too ashamed to admit to it.

 

yes, dems are for the middle class, the right is for the rich

Obama wanted to give more to the middle class, but the right demanded the rich get their supersized tax cuts and they controlled congress, Obama met republicans half way so the middle class would not lose their tax cuts

republicans made the tax cuts this time permanent for the rich, so now they can use the middle class tax cuts as a carrot again in the future

 

Hardly true. The Corporate taxes are baked into anything you buy so the dems are for raising the cost to the poor. The dems are railing against a middle class tax cut and Bernie wanted to raise taxes on the middle class.

 

Thanks for proving my point.

 

There has NEVER been a tax cut or raise that is permanent, Corporate or personal, never. Show me an example of a permanent tax cut.

 

I have to agree, my Doctor has a sign in his office offering discounts to patients that pay cash, substantial discounts. I asked him what was the worse thing about barrycare, he said "paperwork".

 

10trill....no prob for leftists cuz obama
1.5 trill.....sky is falling cuz trump hurt my feelings

 

I think that intentionally increasing the deficit is a winning strategy for Republicans. It allows them to slash Social Security and Medicare with less of a backlash, arguing that they have no other choice anymore to balance the budget. Furthermore, should Democrats get into power again, they're essentially forced to either reduce spending or raise taxes, both of which aren't exactly popular. Republicans can have their cake and eat it too as long as the public keeps believing their claim that they're more fiscally responsible than the Democrats.

 

Yeah, those corporations were having a real hard time stashing their profits overseas and not paying taxes. They deserved a tax break. Here's hoping something trickles down on trump supporters.

 

I bet you consider yourself christian, don't you?

 

1.5 trillion on top of the current deficit. How often does that have to be said??

 

One of those "Christians" who'll take a vacation from his tax cut, while not having health insurance. Then, when he gets sick, he'll stick the bill to us. Funny how those "Christians" can only think about themselves and their own money.

 

You don't get that the $1.5 trillion is on top of the current deficit, do you?

 

Another possible reason why is that in 2025, it's more likely if there is significant job growth from the corporate tax cuts it will take that long to realize it in the form of new employment and higher wages. I doubt the higher wages part, but perhaps some new employment from the 14% of corporations who say they plan to use tax cuts to fund capital investment. Presuming none of that is in automation...anyway when it comes to forecasting the financial impact, by 2025 if the individual breaks expire, then anyone with a new job or higher wages is not paying even more in taxes. So there's that possibility. Though all of this requires being able to see the future, which I cannot.