Germans say Russia is more reliable than the United States

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  1. mbk734

    mbk734 Well-Known Member

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    I trust Germany and most of Europe will be part of the middle east soon.
     
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    If you still support this man and have not yet publicly apologized to every person you know then you are part of the problem. One day you may repent, until then, expect to be labeled and categorized, it will not be flattering.
     
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    Mistakes in judgement. Hmmmm. Plenty of those, depending on which side of the fence you sit.

    Btw, I'm not against or anti Churchill - but nor am I as smitten about him as you are. All politicians have dark deeds and dirty filthy secrets lurking in their background, and Churchill was no exception.

    For example, he was responsible for regicide, when he ordered the assassination of Prince George, Duke of Kent, who died piloting a Sunderland Flying Boat in August 1942. Actually, on this I thoroughly commend him for the decision. Prince George was flying a very senior Nazi VIP to sign a peace treaty with Hitler. He had to be stopped. And was.

    However, there was worse, of course. But I'll leave that for now, other than to recommend Guido Preparata's first class book Conjuring Hitler and reference one passage from that Italian historian:

    As I say dark deeds.
     
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    He saved the world from hitler and the nazis

    And I say that because he could have negocisted a truce with hitler but refused to do so

    Next to that everything else is a footnote
     
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    Oh, sure Russia is more reliable than the USA for Germany. Well, that is until Russia cuts off the oil or natural gas supply to Europe in the middle of winter over a policy dispute. :p
     
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    I don't know about popular German sentiment. I suspect, though, that the average working class German is dissatisfied with Markel concerning her "open boarders" policy. I know she has mentioned to Zuckerberg to squelch opposing views.
     
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    Completely agree with you so long as that’s not an endorsement of Hillary Clinton.
     
  8. Glücksritter

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    Well, I dont wanna paint Trump as the perfect leader, but as for the media that presents him as idiot, I dont take them for serious as you do not take Trump for serious. If a journalist of the German mainstream media writes something about Trump I will take it as a lie by default, I dont even read this **** anymore. Even if there aare some allegations turning out to be true, journalists of the mainstream media are proven liars to me. As far as analysis of his person, his achievements or politics, I refuse to accept the average journalist have the intelligence or is qualified to do so. Not because I consider Trump as a genius, but I consider mainstream journalists normally to be dumber not only as a pig (in fact pigs are very smart), but as dumber as whatever digested is coming out of the pig.

    Its the same as with George Bush, he made indeed one or another stupid move, but after a few weeks I was aware that the media smears him no matter what and lies shamelessly about him. What I do not understand why Americans use this fact for German bashing, because the journalists in Germany are not more stupid than in the US ... what do they think Germany journalists take their primitive lies from? The commentators and journalists from their liberal media are exactly the same kind of idiots as ours.

    I dont follow every single measure by Trump, I just follow his general line, especially his foreign policy as this is more of a concern for me as a German. For the Americans the economy is more important. No matter what field I give the higher priority, I consider him to be the best president since Bush senior or Reagan. If we go into details, yes, I would have some critics, imo he is too close to Saudi-Arabia, he was unable to achieve a conciliation with Russia as he wanted, but non of the critics I would have is worse under him than under any predecessor. Very sad is Hillary is not in prison right now as he aimed to, but at least his announcement of that showed his good intentions.

    What's bad for Germany is his protectionism, but after all, I find his strategy of protecting and revitalising US industry the right way. With a chancellor that would negotiate with him instead of trying to gain prestige by bashing him, I am positive one could get into an agreement and get along with him.
     
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    I have no idea why so many hate her, she is simply a female version of every highly intelligent politician that has ever existed. Maybe it's her gender?
     
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    No, gender is irrelevant. Hillary Clinton is a warmonger/hawk. I loathe her vision of foreign policy.
     
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    Yes, and this is especially evident if you believe Churchill signed a non aggression pact with Russia, invaded Czechoslovakia, and attacked France through Belgium.. Of course, as in your example, this brief synopsis may contain a few key errors.
     
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    Apologize for whom? Keith Elllison - aka Keith E. Hakim - the racist Antifa guy? I don't think so.

    With Ellison as head of the DNC and Maxine Waters as their moral conscience, what could possibly go wrong?
     
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    Yes, Mohammed has gone to the mountain.
     
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    Nah, she'd still be Crooked Hillary - and there's likely more disgust than hate.
     
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    Boy you were wrong with that statement.
     
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    And you prefer Donnie Trump's daily random bellicosity? Wow.
     
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    Hell no, what made you think that, lol. From the chair I’m setting in, there’s been no worse President in America. Anyway, I’m an independent, a real independent.
     
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    Oh, why wrong, in the long run it'll show itself.
     
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    An example of her intelligence and her excellent sense for diplomacy ...



    I mean thats so pathetic even next to the standards of her disgusting husband ...
     
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    If you’re attempting to credit Reagan with the collapse of the USSR with his failed Star Wars and a scolding speech, pardon me while I take a laugh.
     
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    No?wasn't Reagan??? Maybe then, It was stinger missiles in astan that subsequently defeated that miserable excuse of an "empire"!LOL.
     
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    How so?
     
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    In fact there were three very important people who contributed strongly to the eventual collapse of Communism and that was Pope John Paul II, Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, but I can see you aren't too familiar with the subject or the era in which it occurred.
     
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    Yes, pope John Paul, from Poland, it was the small cracks in the iron curtain that inevitably helped crack it wide open.
    Reagan, Mr. Gorbachev ...tear down this wall! Or I will!!, 2.5 yrs later it was tore down.
    M.Thatcher...we will not falter where democracy is challenged", I remember her saying. A no BS iron lady!
     
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    The bolded part of the quote tells me that Germany's loyalty was weak to begin with.
     

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