Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who taught you that the right way is to assign your value judgement on other posters?
     
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    So, ignoring that part for now, do you think that the belief that there is a dragon on the moon is equivalent to the belief that there isn't one?
     
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    So, we know how the elements were created. And if humans are awful, and there were a god, it would have to be because god made them awful.
     
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    Also, we don't accept a god because there is no reason to do so.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no need for you to understand Chemistry either. Many Americas do not understand physics. They do fine.
    I am extremely curious and apply my mind to such problems. This is why I started to master physics and chemistry and the high maths.

    Here is one thing you might want to learn.

    Elements. What do you believe created elements and please, do not say the Sun. The Sun as I understand this has many many elements. While it can release them, it does not mean it created them.
     
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    And again, how can you believe that? You don't have proof that I don't.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You won't know for sure until a scientist in a laboratory creates elements. Do you know of any scientist that creates Oxygen? I don't mean extracts it, just creates it out of nothing at all?
     
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    I think your mastery of physics and chemistry has a little ways to go. Not only the sun, but stars in general. More specifically, fusion which is a well known and understood process that can even be done in a lab. For the heavier reactions, you need neutron stars and high energy collisions. The creation of the elements is very very well understood.
     
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    That is neither a sufficient nor necessary condition to understand how elements were created.
     
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    Thanks for the partial belief in my mastery of physics and chemistry. I have long known what you now believe. Actually I will let you prove you are correct. Do not do this yourself, but lead me to the science room anywhere that created out of nothing the elements. I will even let you pick the element they can create out of nothing. I will though let you make use of protons, neutrons and electrons.

    Can you think of them making Carbon or Oxygen?
     
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    Readers, to help you understand what I was told, he says he has no clue. It was a simple experiment I asked for. And he does not know how to create elements. If he could, he could create helium, oxygen or nitrogen to name 3. But he is quite positive there is no GOD. GOD knows how to create those elements.
     
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    Even more interestingly, we have elements that can only be created in the lab.
    https://www.sciencealert.com/the-4-newest-elements-on-the-periodic-table-have-just-been-named

    So, even if there was a god, we created elements that it didn't.
     
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    Lol, if there are any readers, they should also probably note that it took me under 2 minutes.

    Not that this conversation has any bearing on anything, as I said, the elements are thoroughly understood.
     
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    I also stand by my statement that this is not the litmus test that determines whether or not we understand something.
     
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    I bet you believe in black holes. Has any scientist seen one?

    This started with the very concept of GOD and you failed your own test.
     
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    I never asked about the temporary range of man made elements.

    I asked about oxygen, hydrogen and helium for openers.

    I was and am well aware of the several elements of such short life they are only noticed experimentally and are not retained as proof. Images are what we have. True or not true? We have photographs.
     
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    I was a Baptist. All bars are filled with heathen sinners as far as I'm concerned.

    Except you have no evidence and no logical arguments, all you have are attacks on theism. If I tried to prove John ran over Joan by attacking Joan's driving ability, I'd be laughed out of court. What you call "rational thought", I call "doubt", which proves exactly nothing.

    Send me your e-mail address by PM.

    I agree, they aren't on equal footing. The claim in a deity dates back millennia, and the overwhelming majority of people believe in God, so atheists need to prove their point much more than theists do.
     
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    As an Atheist I need to prove NOTHING as I am not claiming anything. I have no interest in disproving your God as it does not interest me....BUT, when people like you get nasty about me I will react. Truth be told you are almost as Atheist as I am....you simply believe one of the thousands is real.
     
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    So you simply made it up so you could tell us how you feel about atheists, when of course you appear to of met none! Just heathen sinners chuckle chuckle!
     
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    Wait...what was he doing in a bar in the first place?
     
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    Perhaps after telling all the people at the church picnic he had proved their god did not exist, heathen sinners were the only ones who would talk to him!
     
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    Most people trust rapists more than atheists.
     
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    Most people avoid purposefully making fools of themselves.
     
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    you intended to make a moronic and incoherent post? lol ok
     

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