Chelsea Manning To Run For U.S. Senate In Maryland

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  1. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    Who paid for Bradley's surgery?
     
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    If one accepts that a woman can perform in the military enough to fulfill the needs of service then a penis is really not needed to accomplish ones duty. As long as you do not remove it in a way that is dangerous and causes you physical damage you can still perform as a soldier if a female can perform those duties. There is nothing you actually need your penis for as a soldier. It is not like your legs or your arms where you would have difficulty getting along without them. You could be castrated and still perform every duet of a soldier. It is like your appendix or tonsils.

    Sure, we can pay them in penis removal surgery if that is their choice. What does it matter to you if someone else wants to remove their penis as long as they never make an effort to force you or any unwilling soldier do it? As a voluntary operation which improves the life and happiness of those soldiers who want the surgery I say great. I say thank you for your service and your commitment. If this is something you want and it does make you happy and fulfilled I am actually happy they offer the option. I wish for nothing but their happiness and well-being. It is a psychologically and medically proven fact that for the people who want this it does help them to be happy and live better lives even if you do not get it. You are the one trying to place judgments on how they get their happiness.

    I would imagine some process can be worked out where the person who is giving their service can accomplish those goals and receive surgery at a point where it does not hinder their duties. Service is not forever. If they do what our country needs for the time required then why not give the option? It is not terribly complicated or expensive. You have to make sacrifices of yourself as a part of service. So as a part of the deal perhaps you serve your four years and at the end of that the surgery is something you get. Then if you happen to be called back you would enter the service as the opposite gender.

    Why do you want to deny those who are desiring such a thing to have it? How does any of that harm you? Even as a taxpayer you are still getting service. I will tell you that you will get some real loyal service people if you offer up trans surgery as a deal. There are people who go through hell for that, and four years of service would not even be a blink for them. They would happily do their best for four years if the transition would be paid for. They would not go awol or defect with that carrot waiting for them. They would gladly kill any person you order or charge into any battle for that opportunity. You cannot get that sort of dedication and loyalty with money.
     
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    It is not clear who has or will do the surgery. The military will not comment. The process is a long one. You do not just go in one day and come out the other gender. There is a time of hormone therapy and many cosmetic surgeries to transform the genitals to appear like a woman's. It is a series of operations over the course of a couple of years. I think in miss meanings case her sentence was actually commuted and she was released before anything other than hormones were given to her. All the decisions were made too recently for her to have undergone the full transition even by today. She has been out for a while and in am assuming they are not paying for her considering her discharge status. In her case she is going to have to pay for it herself because she was released. The issue where the taxpayer would have to pay for it was if they kept her in military prison for thirty five years as was her sentence. So you can thank Obama for releasing her and saving you from having to pay for her surgery as the court had ordered. They do not have to pay for her surgery now that she is free.

    So say it with me all you alt right manning haters thank you obama.
     
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    Why would anyone vote for a dickless US Arny traitor to be senator?

    Even liberals have better sense than that

    I hope
     
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    What an amazing amount of mansplaining here.... Ms Bradley telling us all... "I'm not just another white guy running for the senate"....
     
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    I'm too astonished at the idea that the Army would have had to pay for it in the first place.
     
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    The right wing voted for a dickless guy who ran from service to be president a couple years ago, and I thought they had better sense than that.
     
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    None f what you just said is true except for the fact that trump was elected president in spite of your preferences
     
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    It surely wouldn't be close to being the first time.
     
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    He would be the first senator to cut his penis off

    At least as far as we know
     
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    Now you may not have liked him but he never tried to make the claim that he was other than the plumbing he was born with indicated.
     
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    Don't bet on it. A lot of libs would vote for him simply because he is a screwed up man who thinks he ought to be a woman.
     
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    Is he post-op now? Either way its a guy pretending to be a girl, this has no effect on the glass ceiling, it actually is more like a sinking in the floor...
     
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    If this guy gets elected it'll mean there is no ceiling, no floor, and the door has been removed.
     
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    What makes you think there ever was? After all Donald Trump is President and so were his war criminal predecessors.
     
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    Even obama?
     
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    You mean the guy who admits he's very good at killing people? Mr. Indiscrimate Droner? Mr. Killer Tuesdays?
     
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    I have never seen trump's dick. In order for me to think he is a man I must personally see it because I think he really is a Kenyan woman.
     
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    I don't know he has that plumbing. He has little girl hands so maybe he is a really ugly woman.
     
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    You sre entitled to your opinion
     
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    I don't know what the result of her trials were, but apparently she's been cleared and eligible to run. I mistakenly called her "he" in an earlier post. I though she became a non-binary person. (In which case it would be "they're running")
     
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    It seems like only ten minutes ago the general US right wing mantra was that the content of the character trounces all. Maybe they got distracted by the penis.
     
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    I would prefer a President Snowden myself.
     
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    and additionally she might lose the seat for it's Democrat holder
     
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    Nevermind the general election

    Do you think the dickless wonder will win the nomination ?
     

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