Special counsel indicts 13 Russian nationals in Russia investigation

Crickets.

 

Funny thing about your link..............IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT VOTER SUPPRESSION. In fact, nowhere in it does it say anything about any voter information being changed, or voters being turned away from the polls.

However, it does say this:


According to the Department of Homeland Security, the assessment reported reassuringly, “the types of systems we observed Russian actors targeting or compromising are not involved in vote tallying.”


Although the NSA report indicates that VR Systems was targeted only with login-stealing trickery, rather than computer-controlling malware,


Seems your link does nothing to back up your trolling.

 

I hear crickets.

 

No answer. I wonder why?

 

I read it. <Mod Edit>

 

The ongoing progress in the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel's patriotic mission to safeguard America against the intrigues of hostile, foreign forces is inducing hysteria.

Let's hope the FBI registers his mental state and places him at the top of their list of individuals prohibited from buying firearms.

"And do not leave him alone with ay pretzel."
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Were I to concede that top secret files exist, which I don't, why hasn't anyone asked? Schiff, Feinstein, or even Rachel Maddow? The Intercept? Well, the real point being that it seems the docs are available, have been since June 2017. I draw your attention to the 3rd paragraph in your own link. Inconclusive analysis. No actual document either, and a page missing, noted in photo caption. Fake news, anonymous source, shady media outlet. Where's your "bias meter" meme when we need it?

 

Trump should not have won + RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA = Trump won because of THE RUSSIANS!

It's simple logic.

 

The state of denial, and the state of liberal bewilderment ...

 

I've wondered about that, not that I miss such a tiresome and obvious method of disregarding any political thought
the left has difficulty dealing with.

 

Here you go, reported in 2013. The Russians are laughing at American gullibility.

https://www.novayagazeta.ru/articles/2013/09/07/56253-gde-zhivut-trolli-i-kto-ih-kormit

 

We're they duped or willing accessories? They never even had a clear conversation with the organizer.

 

There is some question as to whether some of these, "news reporters," accepted payment for their actions.

 

That's most ridiculous thing ever posted in TFFF history (you have some solid challengers, granted). In what universe were "alt-right" voters going to EVER vote for the Skankipotimus?

 

That's really a good example of why the country is being torn apart. The idea that the fact that Trump won and Hillary didn't is de facto "proof" of tampered elections.

 

^^^^Meme defense is no defense

 

You will never see Trump say anything critical against his boss, Putin.

If you hurt Trump's feelings, he will tweet up a storm. Just ask SNL.

Trump can't stop tweeting. His tweeting fetish is pathological. He lies, he makes really weird half sentences that end in bizarre non-words, it's non-stop stream of consciousness gibberish. His tweets betray a barely passing familiarity with grammar and spelling.

"I have the best words." Yeah, like covfefe and unpresidented.

Infantile birds have to be fed predigested goo. They can't handle unprocessed things in their diet. Trump is the great goo puker into the open mouths of his flock. He nourishes them with tiny 140 character excretions.

In amongst all his rantings, Trump has managed to hurl insults at just about every one of our allied nations and their leaders. Incredibly offensive stuff. This is what he raises his little birds on, hatred toward our friends.

And, of course, he spent years attacking our own Presidents and our country. Bush and Obama. The Iraq war.

He never attacked Bill Clinton, though. In fact, he stood up for Clinton during the "bimbo eruptions", and when he did blog about either of the Clintons, it was to say Bill was a great President and Hillary would make a great President.

Of course, once Trump decided to change himself from a long time Democrat to a pseudocon Republican, his tweet assaults against the Clintons were phenomenal.

But there is one country, and one leader, on which Trump has been as silent as the grave when it comes to criticism.

Russia and Putin.

In 2013, Trump tweeted that he was going to Russia and he gushingly hoped that Putin would become his new best friend.

In 2014, Putin invaded Crimea.

Not a single tweet from Trump criticizing this.

Putin also invaded western Ukraine.

Again, dead silence.

Russia then shot down a passenger airliner.

Not a word from Trump. He sure was busy sending out birther tweets!

Trump did not mention the invasion of Crimea except blame Obama!

I kid you not.

Trump NEVER has a bad word to say about Putin or Russia. But he has managed to insult all of our allies.

There's a word for someone who trashes our friends and supports our enemies. You know what that word is.

In 2016, Russia attacked our electoral system. Repeatedly. Not just hacking the DNC. They did much more than that. Much more.

And what has Trump tweeted about that?

Nothing.

In fact, Trump does nothing to correct his Chumps' denials about those attacks.

Trump has done nothing to retaliate against Russia for those attacks.

Trump has done nothing to protect us from further attacks by Russia, or to disincentivize Russia from giving their proxies in Iran or North Korea or Syria the means to mess with our elections.

What Trump has done is fire the guy who was investigating the attacks, and then called our enemy into his office the next day to laugh with them about it.

Collusion?

Yeah, there's collusion all right. With his silence and inaction, Trump consents to Russia's attacks on the US and our allies.

 

They are professional journalists. They should be presumed to know what they are doing.
I doubt that a grand jury would assume they were innocent boobs.
We may find out.

 

Nonsense. Opposition research is for the education of the candidate commissioning the research. YOU are referring to USES of that information. And, there is no evidence of improper use.

This is WELL KNOWN to be false. It was the whole point of that memo that some staffer of Nunes wrote - the memo were Nunes says he didn't even read the material that supported the claims in the memo!!!

You're assuming the claims are true. But, as per the above, they aren't

Again, you're assuming something that didn't happen and that you have no evidence of happening.

The Steele dossier was evidence that information (true or false, it doesn't matter) is becoming public, and thus there is an argument for exigency. Simply the public knowledge that the document existed was a justification for needing to take a faster track than would be possible without a FISA warrant. This is an important element EVERY FISA judge evaluates before granting a warrant to investigate a citizen.

This last "how long does it take" thing is just you complaining. I can't help you with that.

But, I'd point to the indictments and guilty pleas that are coming out.

You can NOT claim they aren't being active.

 

So, why did Putin collude with the MSM to promote anti-Trump rallies?

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...-enthusiastic-coverage-russian-sponsored-anti

 

Nailed it.

 

The purpose of opposition research is not in question (even though you inexplicably seem to feel it's purpose is just to inform candidate A about candidate B never acknowledging what candidate A then does with that information...like taking it to a FISA court).

And you also treat all research as if it's all on the level, conveniently ignoring that the Steele dossier we compiled by a man who wanted to
destroy Trump and his campaign and was filled with unverified third hand rumor and innuendo (so much so that Steele himself, in an optimistic best case scenario, estimated his report was about seventy percent accurate. And which parts then weren't accurate?
Steele doesn't seem to know.)

Is it "proper" to take what is intended as a compendium of the worst slurs and rumors about Trump and his campaign, gained from second and third hand Russian sources, and go to a FISA judge saying "Here, I would like to spy on this man. Here is my justification"?
Only a real partisan lunatic would claim that. The idea that someone's campaign fodder should serve as the basis for a warrant to spy?
It's mind boggling!

How is it even remotely "false" that the FBI, taking the unsubstantiated Steele dossier to a FISA judge for permission to spy on Trump and his campaign doesn't, in and of itself, lend an aura of credibility and respectability to what amounts to a politicized vendetta, that results in a fraudulent misrepresentation by the FBI?

Just use your head and try and be even slightly impartial, won't you?

Oh well, says the judge. If the FBI is telling me this document shows we must spy on Donald Trump who am I to turn it down?
It's the FBI, after all! The FISA judge was not at all well served by the bamboozling of the FBI. http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/03/5-things-fbi-never-told-fisa-court-trump-dossier/

Even for a court that rejects a microscopic .03% of government requests for it's permission to spy and snoop this is ridiculous!

You yourself admitted what the Steele dossier was...pure opposition research (albeit it wasn't "research" so much as creative fiction).
So you must know, exactly which claims of the dossier were true and which were false? So which is which?

You fail bigly to convince or justify.
And you know what the defender of a lie becomes himself, don't you? Your above exercise in ass coverage doesn't really
cut it at all.

Really? Why not demonstrate where I went wrong then? I would enjoy seeing that.

I think it damned well does matter if the Steele dossier was crammed with bad information or not.
To act on corrupt unverified information in a hurried and hasty manner is worse than not acting on it at all. Where are you getting
your information from?

Yes. Well, it happens to be me "complaining" with very good justification. The cases against Flynn and Podesta are remarkably similar yet Flynn is taken down nearly at once while Podesta is still walking around a free indicted man.
But when your long time boss, friend, patron and font of all business, Hillary Rodham Clinton, is still living a largely consequence free life of crime what can we expect in a country where there is a blatant two tiered system of justice?

I mean, she can get the FBI and DOJ to help take down her political rivals. Who is surprised that her lackeys are all still under her protection.

All the more reason to wonder why the simplest case of all to prosecute, Tony Podesta's felonious business association with Russia, remains in limbo. But I see you are unconcerned.

 

I don't recall Hillary Clinton commenting lately.

 

Tell us again how Russians passed voter ID laws in swing states to make Hillary lose.