Kim Has No Need For Nuclear Weapons If He Has Security Guarantees

The dictator who has killed millions of his own people and his own family is actually a no-nukes, peace-loving hippie?

Who knew?

 

Or kick the can down the road, just like always.

 

If any governor of one of the several states brought condemned prisoners off of death row and executed them in front of the children at an elementary school, would you put your trust in him and vote for him as president? Would the press call the man an angel of peace as they did Hitler?

 

We may not agree on much, but we do on this one. I have always said NK is not run by crazy people. Murderous scum, sure, but so is much of this world.

NK at least pays attention to what the US does, unlike some americans, when it comes to perpetual war for perpetual peace. And they have noted that the US does not attack nor invade nations with nukes. And they also have noted that if you have a nuke program and end it, and we don't like you to begin with, your a** is grass and we are the lawn mower. Of course crazy nitwits would not notice this, but any rational leader would.

We need to get the hell out of the way and not interfere with the two koreas trying to move towards something resembling sanity. But with that said, there is no way SK would ever agree to live under the form of gov't seen in NK and china. So I am not sure what kind of resolution there is, to unite korea again. Turning Korea into a NK ruled regime is off the table, surely. And China would never back turning NK into SK complete with US military bases.

 

I completely agree that the U.S. entered into a legal defense treaty with the Ukraine and that treaty was violated.

It was Barack Obama that violated it.

 

The Soviet System was an international system, nation/states did not exist. Ukraine was an administrative section of the Soviet Union which included parts of Russia, Poland, Hungary and Romania. This is why the Russian's didn't complain when Khruschev handed Crimea to the Ukrainian administration.

The former inhabitants of Poland who lived in Gallicia, joined the Nazis in WWII and massacred the Poles and Jews living there. The city of Lviv consisted of Jews and Poles, and they are gone. Only the Gallician Ukrainians remain. Because the Nazi criminals were anti Soviet Union, Washington befriended them and they were the ones that were used to overthrow the legitimate government in Ukraine.

 

another lie.

Ukraine was a UN recognized state with its own UN representation.

 

Obama invaded Crimea and Donetsk/Lugansk?

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

He/she is a Russian troll. That is his/her job.

 

I think so too

 

From what I read, North Korea is opening up and changing its system gradually. But that's not what the US wants, they want to take it over because of its proximity to Vladisvostok which is less than 100 miles from the N. Korean border. I don't see how it could be otherwise, since it is the life line of the Russian economy. Russian grain and its LNG gas have overtaken their US competitors.

If Syria was thrown into turmoil in order to cut into Russia's gas monopoly, and Russia entered the war because Syria and the Shia crescent was essential to the defense of its pipe lines, then it stands to reason that Washington would want to stop the shipments out of Vladisvostok. Also by getting the N. Koreans entangled in a war, Russia wouldn't have the workers needed for their shipments?

I know this for a fact because when Trump was in Saudi Arabia, Congress passed a law prohibiting anyone to hire N. Koreans, even to the point of searching their ports - and Moscow had a fit. Trump of course vetoed it since it meant war. Now Russia is allowed to maintain the amount of N. Korean workers it needs for its shipments.

 

You mean like Kim murdered his brother with vx gas in kuala lampoor a year ago?
Once he did not dare do it abroad.

 

Of course this makes perfectly good sense, which will create cries of anyone agreeing with it, Putin puppets or employees of the Kremlin. lol

Russia is not the old USSR with its communist revolution. And yet, many of us act and talk as if they were. Thing is, we do not have to be friends with russia, but sanity would have us at least working in partnership on issues that concern us both. Like radical islam and its proliferation.

What I discern is that my gov't does not want russia to have national interests nor national security concerns. And we treat russia as if it has eyes on world domination, and is just salivating in taking over all of europe. So much so that we must break our word with them and trying to surround them as much as possible with armed forces, nato, and putting missiles on their borders, as we lied and told them it was all about Iran. lol We are not even good liars.

The truth is, we would be much better off, if we want to work for peace over perpetual war for perpetual peace, if we stopped the war mongering nonsense in regards to russia. Putin has promised the russian people that another war will not fought on russian land, given their history, and IMO, he actually means it. And the US had better develop some intelligence and sanity, which means we must oust all of these neocons and their scheme of PNAC. Russia will never be another vassal state of the US, and IMO, you can take that to the bank.

A stronger much more prosperous russia is actually in our own best self interests. And yet we do everything we can to impoverish their people, waging economic war against them, while being so arrogantly insane as not to understand russia and its needs. Needs which are not extraordinary at all. I have not seen russia as an enemy since the old USSR fell. The communist revolution was about world domination, and I cannot ever forget Kruschev banging his shoe on the table and saying, "we will bury you" long, long ago. But that is not russia today. And yet some of us act as if it were thanks to clever propaganda, from the US and the UK.

You need a mind like the mind of Reagan, to bring some sanity back in regards to russia. No way in hell he would have put us on this PNAC neocon path, this arrogant driven insanity which has consumed our foreign policy and turned the middle east into a literal hell, while not adding one twit of safety to this old world, not to mention the number of lives lost in the middle east, which will only create more blow back, violence and death.

If anyone thinks the US, my gov't, respects and finds value in human life, you are sadly and very badly mistaken. We don't. If anyone thinks the US really wants peace instead of hegemony, clearly no attention has been paid at all. We could have been a great force for good and democracy in the world, by simply setting an example of what other nations should follow. But heaven help this old earth if the examples we have set for decades are emulated by other nations. For it would without a doubt destroy our species.

I am called out for not being an american, suggesting I am really a russian bot or a russian propagandist. lol. And yet there used to be plenty of people like me once upon a time ,and they were democrats. And so now with this McCarthyism, common sense, rationality, one is accused of not being an american. And yet, my way of thinking is pure american, and only the clueless refuse to recognize it. These games of dishonesty and a total lack of integrity these people try to play only evidences what these kind of people are. And it isn't a good, nor positive thing. It is rather something to be detested due to the very nefarious nature of it.

No, I am not one of those who believes, "my country right or wrong". And IMO neither were our Founders nor were the good and decent leaders in our past. Nazis were these kind of people, as well as other peoples who lost any hint of a moral compass, of a sense of right and wrong.

 

You better go back to school. The Soviet Union was an 'Internationalist' liberal state, which didn't believe in nation/states and people maintaining their ethnicity and heritage. To combat the communist revolutionaries in Europe, there was a rise of nationalism. This is why we had WWII.

The same thing is happening today. In order to fight the liberal 'Internationalist' new world order Washington is trying to impose on the world, there is a rise in nationalism/fascism in Europe. We are the Soviet Union's successor.

A bit of logic Ronstar, if there were no nations/states in the Soviet Union, how could Ukraine be a nation? Here's the communist anthem. It's called the 'International'.

 

Excellent post, my sentiments exactly.

 

So true. Meanwhile bloodthirsty chickenhawk John Bolton is foaming at the mouth as usual.

https://www.salon.com/2018/03/01/bloodthirsty-john-bolton-eager-to-kill-north-koreans/

 

John bolton that rat supports every war there is! Everytime I see him on Fox he talks about blowing up stuff! Any kind or type of war he is totally for that crazy kook needs to get off tv! He drives me crazy!

 

Nobody is more anti-American than warmongers who eagerly support sending Americans overseas to die in illegal wars.

 

It is nothing but sanity, supported by reason, logic, rationality, resting upon just basic morality. And yet, someone will accuse me of being anything but an american. In short, as I said, a russian, putin's puppet. It seems if you refuse to be indoctrinated by pro neocon, PNAC propaganda, and if you actually use your own brain, instead of parroting some neocon brain, and look at the facts of the big picture, you are not an american. But of course, the more astute intellects recognize the deceit and lies of this neo McCarthyism, and what these accusers are indulging in. Put it this way. I, nor anyone else with a living brain cell would trust these McCarthy-ites with looking out for any of one's assets, or put them over any task that demanded the upmost responsible thinking.

 

America has not had any illegal wars but I agree we did blunder into an ill advised quagmire in Iraq and afghanistan

 

They weren't blunders. They were crimes and the perps like Bush and Clinton belong in jail.

 

So why did the "man of peace" launch artillery strikes on Yeonpyeong Island?

 

Or attack and sink a South Korean warship

 

It's not a quagmire. It allows the US to maintain a military presence, until the US can initiate conflict with Iran.

The No Fly Zone in Iraq accomplished the same thing. It allowed the US to maintain a military presence for over a decade until a pretext could be conceived to invade Iraq.

 

Stop being intentionally stupid. We may disagree on many things but I have never considered you an idiot or illiterate.

Russia violated Ukraine's (the region of Crimea) border

Barack Obama violated the defense treaty the U.S. signed with the Ukraine. Our government had a legal obligation to defend Ukraine in exchange for their denuclearization and Obama did not honor it.

You can blame the U.S. if you like. Technically I would have to allow you would be right. But in reality, one man made that decision.