Washington State bans gay conversion therapy on minors

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    I'm not saying it'll work, I'm just saying that's probably how I'd do it.
    But hey, if betting on a lost cause, may as well make it pleasing to my eyes at least.
    I figure my way, if they don't want, when they're 18, they can be with who ever, Hell, even during camp, but hey, beats being told you're going to Hell for your urges.
    Of course, there's the whole issue of showing porn to minors.
     
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    one thing you would definitely find out is which men are gay and which men aren't.


    I suppose there is some good articles and a picture of a nice sports car every so often in such a magazine...:lol:

    it would certainly help people understand they're deeper nature.
    I thought Playboy's were just nudies I don't know it's been so long since I've looked at one, but there are other things you can show people that aren't dirty.
     
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  5. Polydectes

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    Affirmation therapy. Nice yellow Ford ranger.
     
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    Interactions with your environment are consciously controlled. We refer to them as behaviors.
    The salivating dogs are simultaneously exhibiting the normal consciously dictated behaviors of dogs when they see food, excitement, pacing, whining, etc.
    Stimulation of glandular secratory function is not behavior, unless you think your adrenals releasing epinephrine in response to stress is behavior.
    Behaviors involve conscious interaction with the environment.
     
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    We talk about how liquids behave under various conditions as an example.
     
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    Well again if you think you can disprove pavlov classical conditioning and operant conditioning you go on ahead and do it.

    I just said that some of the behaviors they exhibited were not conscious.
    the behavior is The Reflex.


    No they do not.
     
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    An interesting point
    It would be interesting to ask an anti gay man what it would take for him to get an erection by looking at a man what would it take for him to enjoy sex with a man? I suspect that even the question would be offensive.

    So if anti gay straight men cannot be trained to enjoy gay sex, how do gay men “learn” to be gay?. there must be something that predisposes gay men to be gay.
     
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    Pavlov showed that the food stimulus can be replaced by the Bell, nothing more
     
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    I understand it. If you would just read the link, you could stop being so embarrassingly wrong.
     
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    Who says anti gay straight men can't learn ?
     
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    You have no idea how any study in that link was conducted or how its conclusions were made.
     
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    Dogs salivating to the sound of a Bell is not operant conditioning and Pavlov never demonstrated that this behavior was not consciously mediated
     
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    What about the thousands of minors who are forced against their will?
     
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    you should probably read it, to avoid continued embarrassment.
     
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    This is a debate site, not a linky post site.
    Present your collateral like someone who actually understands it
     
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    Definition of behavior

    1: the way in which someone conducts oneself or behaves (see behave 1)
    • We were grateful for the gracious behavior of our hostess.

    • The children were rewarded for good behavior.

    • Be on your best behavior.
    ; also : an instance of such behavior
    • unacceptable social behaviors
    2a : the manner of conducting (see 1conduct 2) oneself
    • criminalbehavior

    • normal adolescentbehavior
    : anything that an organism does involving action and response to stimulation

    c : the response of an individual, group, or species to its environment
    • They are studying the behavior of elephants in the wild.
    3: the way in which something functions or operates
    • They tested the behavior of various metals under heat and pressure.
     
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    you were given the evidence showing your claim was ignorant bullshit. Read what was given to you.
     
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    You were given a chance to appear knowledgeable. One day maybe you'll read your own linky links and be able to talk about them in an educated manner
     
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    If stimulus can trigger a behavior that is unconscious then he has condition of the dog.

    If behavior is completely conscious and do you make an active choice to engage in it there is no conditioning. Because there is nothing to condition.
     
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    The dogs don't react to the bell when unconscious
     
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    So you finally agree good.
     
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    I said the behavior was unconscious not the dog.
     
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