Good guy with a gun stopped the shooter in MD school

The Las Vegas mass shooter was an "ordinary gun owning" middle American from outward appearances until he went bezerk. The fact that mass shootings have increased in the last decade does not prove anything. You're confusing correlation with proof of cause and effect. All we really know is that the United States has by far the highest murder rate in the industrialize world and also the highest rate of gun ownership in the industrialized world. Of course, that is also a correlation, but a suspicious one.

The fact that so many gun homicides in the USA are due to inner-city gangs seems to indicate that those homicides could be reduced by restricting by their access to guns. Pointing out that many of the victims of homicide are people who are not like you does not make them any less tragic.

 

And it appears that the "good guy with the gun" shot the 14 year old.boy not the shooter.

I give the Resource Officer credit for being brave enough to go in to the school, but it points out how dangerous arming teachers and lunch ladies would be

 

Sorry to say that lunch ladies may have more sand than the cowardly police in Fla.

 

Why? You just pointed out that the current system, that is arming resource officers in schools, works just fine. Well at least when the guy does his job. And he still lost one student, so it worked decently. But you aren't making your point at all with this post.

 

The same thing happened in Columbine...but yea...you go with your lunch lady army

Cause you got "keyboard sand"

 

No, I'm unhappy that the Resouce Officer is nearly certainly being given credit not due. This kid got dumped by his gf and in the first flush of that disappointment went and got an easily obtained firearm. If that had been prevented he would have gotten over his chagin and the only lingering result would be one guy wondering how he could have been such a fool to even think of doing what he did.

The only thing this "Good Guy" did was to witness a senseless tragedy and wound an innocent bystander. It is possible (but highly unlikely I must admit) that by firing his weapon he exacerbated a situation where the shooter was only going to threaten. Mind you, this Resource Officer functioned as a brave man doing exactly and precisely what he should have BUT the fact remains that had the shooter's gun not been there all we may have seen would have been a minor shouting match in a High School. It seems there may indeed be cases in which a weapon which increases the lethality of all actions by several thousand percent actually CAN cause tragic consequences all by itself. (surprise, surprise who would have thought?)

Two young people are dead and the actual underlying causes of that, the infantile fantasists who, IMO, think you can buy artificial pensises in the gun store, are yet again congratulating themselves for practicing the most repugnant form of sexual perversion I've ever seen or even heard of. I mean no insult to anyone here but it is long past time that this pathology in our national psyche be recognized for what it is and stop being seen as an essential American characteristic. How many innocent souls must be snuffed out on this altar to repressed sexuality and corrupt politics called the NRA and the Gun Culture. Take action now by voting for Democrats in 2018 and 2020 or the next victim of this national insanity may be your son, or daughter, or other loved one.

 

Mass shootings go back at least to 1963. Look up the Texas Tower.

The only commonalty I can see among all the mass shooters is that they are mostly avid hunters. This probably means nothing but it does strike me as at least notable that one of our most encouraged national sports is, in regards to what it requires we actually DO, very much akin to spending the afternoon burning up cats or tearing the wings off flies.

Just Sayin'

 

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Great Mills High School Shooting Victim to be Taken Off Life Suppor...

Maryland School Shooting Victim to be Taken Off Life Support
March 23, 2018 - Speaking in a hushed hospital lobby, the parents of the 16-year-old girl wounded in the school shooting at Great Mills High School in Southern Maryland said Thursday evening they would take her off life support.

 

That the Las Vegas shooter was an ordinary gun-owning American doesn't change the fact that ordinary gun-owning America is overall very peaceful. And the fact that mass shootings have increased in the last decade DOES prove something, which is that they are not caused by guns, because otherwise they would have been just as numerous as before.

Regarding gun homicides by inner-city gangs, pointing out their ethnicity has nothing to do with saying they are less tragic, the point is that the stereotype of the American gun owner, i.e. white people, in particular white males, and of those, usually OFWGs (Old Fat White Guys), are very non-violent. In terms of restricting access to guns to stop gang violence, the gang violence isn't driven by the guns. Chicago for example has some of the worst gang gun violence in the nation, yet very strict gun control laws. Critics say, "Well they get the guns from outside of the city," which may be true, but then why don't the cities that have much less restrictive gun control laws, and that are located in states with much more lenient gun control laws, have the same or even worse levels of gun violence? So it is not the guns that cause Chicago's violence.

 

If you think no one was killed, perhaps you should spend a bit more time checking valid news sources and less time inventing your own version of events.

The Las Vegas shooter, most school shooters, most of them are white guys, whether old or young. Yes, most white guys with guns are peaceful, but that doesn't stop the minority who go off the rails from being a menace to society. The only way to stop them is to make it much more difficult for them to obtain a gun.

 

The Fort Hood shooter, the San Bernardino shooters, the Florida nightclub shooter, the Washington Navy yard shooter, the Virginia Tech shooter...none were white. But yeah, it would be great if we can make it much more difficult for the crazies to get a gun, but you can't do that if it does the same for ordinary citizens.

 

Why can't you? Don't you think most citizens would be willing to jump through a few more hoops to get a gun if it resulted in fewer gun deaths?

 

No, because for one, it's seen as your right to keep and bear arms, not your privilege to, and also, none of the proposed gun control would have stopped any of those shooters except for maybe the really extreme measures. Such measures also would inhibit the poor from being able to possess guns. Also, the Gun Control Movement has shown that it has no desire in terms of "reasonable gun control." Its end goal is a complete 100% ban on guns, and it seeks to do so via incremental steps.

 

According to multiple surveys, even most gun owners believe that there should be more strict gun control laws.