Parkland student questioned by school security for visiting gun range

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No threat existed in the first place. How many other people at the gun range that day did they question? I'm willing to bet not a single one.

    And keep in mind the Parkland shooter wasn't the 17 year old boy and wasn't a student at the school.

    So even those excuses aren't good enough.
     
  2. Longshot

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    What was the possible threat they were investigating?
     
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    And you keep beating the dead horse that is the failure of LEO at Parkland.

    I suggest you get this little nugget through your head: Law Enforcement types look at everyone as suspect in something or other. They aren't your friend, and they aren't your enemy. They are what they are, public citizens enshrined with investigating and solving crime. And sometimes you gotta break some eggs to make an omelette.

    They can't do that if they don't ask any questions!

    You have decided to paint the whole Parkland PD, and police in general, with a very broad brush.

    I choose not to do that.
     
  4. Ericb760

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    Jesus, this is like herding cats....

    A teen. With a gun. Posting on social media.

    Yes, we both agree that this, in and of itself, shouldn't be considered a threat. But, that's NOT the world we live in today, especially in Parkland, FL, for obvious reasons.
     
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    I still don't see the possible threat. Parents take their kids to the gun range all the time.
     
  6. Ericb760

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    Then let's just agree that this concept is beyond your ability to process. I take my kids shooting, too. But, you can be damn sure I make certain that they don't go posting about it online.
     
  7. Longshot

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    Why? Do you consider shooting something to be ashamed of?
     
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    No, but I don't post sex with my wife on the internet either. It's called COMMON SENSE, and this kid had none.
     
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    I'm unclear on your answer. Is shooting something you would be ashamed of or not?
     
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    What part of "no" are you failing to understand?
     
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    So I'm still not quite sure why going shooting with your dad would be seen as a possible threat.
     
  12. Ericb760

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    I don't understand how, in 2018, you fail to understand this simple concept.

    But, I have a feeling you're just being dense on purpose.
     
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    What simple concept?
     
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    I'm done. Goodnight.
     
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    I will enjoy my victory sleep.
     
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    You've experienced no victory, my friend. Unless convincing me that you lack any semblance of empathy was your goal all along.
     
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    To me there is something very odd about the kid and his father and their actions at the gun range.

    The young man school was shot up and 17 of his classmates killed and an equal number wounded only a few months ago.

    Then he went to the local gun range with his father and afterward place pictures of himself enjoying himself on facebook at the range.

    Now there is surely nothing illegal about this but in human terms and emotional terms and judgement terms this seems slightly abnormal not only on his part but his father part.

    It nothing else you would think that his father would block him placing pictures of him enjoying himself on facebook as being perhap disrespectful to the families of those classmates of his that was gun down and are still in mourning.

    If I was in charge of the safety of the school I think I would wish a meeting with this kid to get a feeling for the type of person he happen to be.
     
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    Which is probably exactly what went through the minds of the police when they saw it. How hard is that to comprehend?
     
  19. Polydectes

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    it is the crux of the whole thing. They don't know how to assess a situation.

    yes I know I actually did the job for a year so I have actual experience in it. Just because police officers are jaded does not mean that there judgment is good.

    you don't f****** break eggs to make omelettes if eggs are rights if you do that you find yourself in prison.

    first off I'm going to address the total b*******. I never spoke about police as a whole I only spoke of the Parkland police. They're gross negligence resulted in 17 people being murdered and their cowardice stood in the way of them attempting to stop it. They have a retard most likely a corrupt as f*** Sheriff. I can't wait to hear the IA report about this guy.

    As someone who did the job only for a year but I was smart enough to know it wasn't for me, I despise s*** police work. And being called out to a house with somebody 26 * and not doing that *******n thing about it is s*** police work. Then the Clown goes and blows away a school and you sit with your thumb up your ass sweating your pants when you should be charging in there and stopping him, I have no respect for that.

    If you can't handle running into a building where there's people being shot and killed you have no business being a police officer.

    what's you're not doing is holding police accountable for their failures possibly even corruption I'm willing to bet there's corruption.
     
  20. Polydectes

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    if you have ever lost somebody or known someone that died you know that people grieve in different ways. He may have not known these people that well or at all.

    so please explain what you believe normal behavior is and why you believe normal behavior is what you think it is.

    I honestly don't think it would be disrespectful at all I don't know where you come up with that.

    why?
     
  21. Polydectes

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    It's not hard to comprehend it's just a stupid thought that went through the police's minds. Going to the firing range with your father is not suspicious it's not a possible threat it's not anything and the reason why I say that is because they didn't question anyone else at the range.

    Again keep in mind the Parkland shooter was not a student at that school. So just picking people to harass because their students is not a logical way to sort this out.

    If the police get called to their house because he's shooting chickens that is suspicious behavior that is a possible threat but they didn't give a s*** when that happened.

    The problem is it's too late. The shooter already shot up the school and going and looking for other shooters is retarded they had one in the palm of their hands and they did nothing. If they want to catch Mass murderers they need to pay attention 2 real evidence not invent nonsense and say it's evidence.
     
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    If, as you say, you are a former LEO, than you must be able to empathize with the officers who got the call about this kid and his internet posts. Sure, maybe you read his post and decided for yourself that there was no threat. But, as a LEO it is your sole responsibility to ensure public safety, and that responsibility overrides whatever personal views you had on the matter. So, you go and ask this kid a couple of questions to satisfy your gut feeling that he isn't a threat, and it turns out that he isn't. This is exactly how the system is supposed to work. Yeah, the kid's feelings got hurt. Too bad, really. He needs to chock it up as a lesson learned. Everyone should.
     
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    there was nothing out of the ordinary with these posts. He went to the gun range they didn't question anyone else that went to the gun range.

    believing that someone going to the gun range is reason enough to question them is letting your personal views override your responsibility. They didn't question anyone else at the gun range. Obviously because it's not suspicious it's not even a possible threat.

    too bad they didn't have the gut feeling about the guy that shot and murdered 17 people. I don't think I would trust my gut if it was that f****** stupid.

    no it isn't I don't know where you went to Police Academy but you should request your money back. You don't go fight hundreds or gut feelings you go by legitimate concerns and something that happens every day with hundreds of people is not a legitimate concern.

    it isn't about the boys feelings it's about stupid police that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground being stupid worthless police.

    They have no concept of what a threat is they overlooked the ******n threat that murdered 17 f****** people.
     
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    Sure it not of concern that within weeks of mass murders of his follow students at his school by gun fire he and his father is out enjoying themselves at a gun range to the point of posting public pictures of them doing so.

    While it is true that hundreds of people hell many tens of thousands of people go to gun ranges every day and enjoy themselves almost none of them had just had 17 classmates gun down in the hallways of their schools.

    There is surely some elements that are not within the normal range about either that kid and his father the only question being is does those elements point to another possible danger to the school or not.

    To help judge that an in person meeting seems more then reasonable.
     
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    easy solution...sue the school. Only one thing lefties like this will understand...and thats getting sued into creation. This is a clear violation of the constitution and those involved need to sued at the least and jailed if they try this crap ever again. If this were my kid Id be picking out lawyers right now to grind these traitors into the poor house. Its not against the law to go to a gun range nor post pictures of you doing legal activities. How dumb are these lefties? Were they not taught about the constitution? This is just the latest hitleresque technique invoked by the nutjob over emotional far left. Hitler would be proud of their actions. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. .......and they talk about Trump being dangerous....hrumpph.
     

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