Trump is more popular than Dems want to admit

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bwahahaha! Good one.
     
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    Care to list a few examples? I would very much like to read about them
     
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    Did you forget the Courts and changing them up for decades to come? Did you forget the CRA wherein Trump made sure that EO's will involve Congressional legislation going forward? What about getting China to lean on lil Kim? What about getting China to reduce auto tariffs from 25% to 2.5%? Don't you need to look up his accomplishments?


    Donald J. Trump: A President Like No Other.....


    Those who oppose Trump generally do not understand how desperate and disgusted almost half of Americans are at the most inept twenty-year streak of presidential misgovernment in American history that preceded the 2016 election. These decades of fruitless war, bone-cracking recession, humanitarian disasters, collapsing alliances, oceanic deficits, and the erosion of economic growth and private sector industrial investment to a third or a quarter of levels under Ronald Reagan, could rattle any American’s patriotic self-confidence. Trump is a throwback to Reagan in that he rejects the chic defeatism of the establishment; and despite all the media and Democratic Party and Never-Trump calumny of him, his political program is essentially conventional, moderate, conservative wisdom lifted in large part from the policy recommendations of thoroughly respectable conservative think tanks such as the Heritage Foundation. Trump speaks to Americans fearful of decline. He wants, as his slogan says, to make America great again.

    To those unaffected by the decline of America, that decline was invisible; to those who were affected by it, it is a challenge and a constant fear for their own welfare and national pride. The Democrats have had no policy for some years except to denigrate their opponents, and try to bribe and anesthetize a comatose lumpenproletariat addicted to state benefit. Their nomination of Hillary Clinton showed that they did not realize how many Americans rejected this vision of America.

    The Democrats committed all their energy to proving their assumed self-evident proposition that Trump could not win, then that his victory could be undone, and then that it could be vitiated by scorched-earth obstruction, or destroyed completely by investigations and indictments. Now that Trump has reduced most peoples’ tax burden; relieved the fear that recession and unemployment are just around the corner (in fact provided a booming economy); and adopted a foreign policy of prudent and effective realism that has smashed and scattered ISIS, persuaded China to cooperate against North Korea’s nuclear program, and defended American interests; Americans will likely and rightly judge him a success, despite his lapses of suavity. He has been chronically underestimated, as a nonstarter for the Republican nomination until he clinched it; unelectable until he was elected; and likely to be impeached until the investigations faded and his accusers were engulfed in suspicion.

    It was always the case that, in making billions of dollars, surmounting an acute financial crisis, being a great television star instantly and for fifteen years, revolutionizing the nature and potential for celebrity and seizing control of a great political party in his first real try at politics, Donald Trump accomplished more before he was president than had any prior president of the United States except Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Grant, and Eisenhower. His exterior is uneven, but his history is one of astounding accomplishment......snip~

    https://townhall.com/columnists/con...ld-j-trump-a-president-like-no-other-n2480401


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    The left behinds of the great society!
     
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    Hill Republicans move to scrap Obama-era regulations
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/hill-republicans-move-to...
    Hill Republicans move to scrap Obama-era regulations. ... listen to President Trump during a meeting ... we’ll get rid of every one of these job-killing and ...

    Trump signs bill undoing Obama coal mining rule | TheHill
    thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/319938-trump-signs-bill...
    Both the mining and financial disclosure bills are the tip of a GOP push to undo a slate of regulations instituted in the closing days of the Obama administration. The House has passed several CRA resolutions, and the Senate has so far sent three of them to President Trump for his signature.

    Trump goes hunting for 'job-killing regulations' - WND
    www.wnd.com/2017/02/trump-goes-hunting-for-job-killing-regulations
    Feb 24, 2017 · Trump goes hunting for 'job-killing regulations' ... we will be getting rid of ... his team eyed the burden of regulations. Obama complained of Trump’s ...

    Trump on Rolling Back Obama Energy Regulations: Ending
    https://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/trump-obama-energy-regulations/...
    Trump on Rolling Back Obama Energy Regulations: Ending the ... and to cancel job-killing regulations. ... so many are job-killing," Trump said. "We are getting rid of ...

    Trump Eliminates More Than 800 Obama Regulations
    freebeacon.com/issues/trump-eliminates-800-obama-regulations
    The Trump administration has stopped over 800 regulations proposed under former president Barack Obama, ... Trump Eliminates More Than 800 Obama Regulations


    Need More?
     
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    Surely you have noted how Trump fulfilled his promises to bring back all those coal mining jobs. Or how his tax cuts have massively benefitted the middle class? Or how his replacing Obamacare with Trump care has caused health insurance costs to decrease. Haven't you been paying attention.
     
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    huh? It's a demonstrable fact he has the most consecutive months of jobs creation of any US president in history. Which shows the claim of "job killing regulations" to be pure partisan horseshit.
     
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    One of our biggest allies is making a gold coin with his image on it. Nice.
     
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    • Immigration, specifically the border wall - most of our illegal immigration comes from people that have simply overstayed their visa so a boarder wall will be ineffective.
    According to nbc news, clearly not a right leaning source, overstays comprise about 42% of illegal immigrants in 2014. That means the border wall would drop illegal immigration appropriately 58%. Therefore, not only is your partisan rhetoric wrong, but I'd call that successful.
    • Tax reform, the middle class and small business are largely unaffected and the only permanent
    • sections only benifit the super rich and mega-corporations that have more money than they know what to do with.
    Again, partisan rhetoric and factually incorrect. The middle class and small businesses are affected and will pay less in taxes. The only way taxes will go up in 2027 is if democrats are in charge.
    • Korea, I’ve not heard specific policies that led to this - most experts believe it was the explosion that leveled their testing and pressure from China - N Korea has explicitly stated he wasn’t the cause
    Those claiming that Trump had nothing to do with North Korea coming to the table are ignoring what was going on right before then.
    • Health Care, recently announced he was not goingto bring down pharmaceutical costs and his plan to make health insurance better made it more expensive
    The elimination of the personal mandate is seen as a win for taxpayers. You know, another tax cut.
    • Draining the swap, that’s a joke - his administration is a revolving door of corruption
    This is your opinion.
    • Debt/Deficit, the plan seems to be ignore it
    Perhaps. Or perhaps it expects growth and administrative cuts to bring it down.

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    We do understand that Trump's goal by eliminating regulations that protect the environment and workers is to make corporations and corporate investors rich. That has nothing to do with actually helping main street. Wage growth is pathetic at best, GDP growth is still anemic, and the avtual benefits of the Trump tax cuts have mostly helped the already wealthy.
     
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    So why are less Illegals trying to get into the country again? What are they learning those Democrat Sanctuary Cities just aren't all sanctuary like. :laughing:
     
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    hahahah what legacy? He was the most failed president weve ever seen.
    Economy...fail
    Debt...fail. Dude more than...well we all know how much that dirtbag added with 0 to show for it...not even a fixed bridge.
    Jobs....epic fail
    Foreign policy...epic fail...benghazi and the iran deal speak for themselves.
    North Korea...epic fail
    Israel...epic fail
    Domestic front.....the single worst president Ive ever seen in my lifetime here. Dude divided the nation on racial lines and got cops assasinated
    Healthcare...destroyed the system. Its a joke now.
    Osama kill...his only win.
     
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    You obviously are unaware that the percentage of workers covered by employer healthcare plans has been dropping for decades, while larger and larger percentages of the cost where employers do offer plans are being paid for by the employees.

    Total percentage of GDP going yo healthcare has continued to increase under Obamacare and is projected to continue to do so for the forseeable future.

    The only thing that will happen because of the mandate repeal is more and more people will not have insurance and their healthcare will be paid for by the taxpayers or those with insurance.
     
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    Yeah protecting those puddles of water on sidewalks and streets was an outstanding accomplishment by BO peep and Team screw up. Killing the coal industry really helped with jobs and all that. Closing off more US government land was really thinking about the future. :lol:


    And yet black unemployment is down to the lowest level ever. Unemployment is down.

    Yet companies and corporations are raising wages. Giving out benefits. Even your own Special man said he would have liked to lower corporate taxes. But didn't knowing he would lose all those activist that were donating to his cause.

    We know we heard The Demo 1% Pelosi talking about crumbs. Crumbs I tell ya. While she lives in her 2 million dollar home and Maxine waters living in her 4.2 mil home in Beverly Hills. Damn those Rich people that actually worked to get where they are unlike Pelosi and Waters having to steal money from others. :razz:
     
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    Try looking up the unemployment numbers when Obama took office and when he left. Or look up the stock market when he took office and ehen he left. Or look up the housing market ehen he tookmoffice and when he left.

    Educate yourself. It will do you good.
     
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    Wage growth is less than 3%.

    And the coal industry has been dying for years. Death was due to cheap natural gas, low oil prices and alternative sources of energy all thanks to Obama. Trump's promise to bring back coal jobs was just another lie to pander to his cadre of left behinds.
     
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    Show us when Bo the Peeps black unemployment was ever down to the level it is now. Just why are blacks out saying that the Peep didn't do anything for his people. Why is the BLM leaders saying that the Demos only use them for Photo ops?
     
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    name Obama's policies that increased job growth. Obamacare alone killed jobs or turned full time jobs into part time jobs. even school districts and local government offices were reducing jobs because of obamacare.
     
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    And yet small business is hiring, making money, confidence is high. 5 by 5 and in the pipe. Why couldn't the utterer and stutterer accomplish such a feat.
     
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    yeah...your problem is I did. Obama lost a full time job and created two part time jobs and claimed jobs went up. As I stated numerous times...Im the wrong guy to try and pass fuzzy math by as I ensure it doesnt happen for a living.
    Who here would rather work two low paying part time jobs with no benefits over a higher paying full time job with benefits? Lets have your answer first court jester.
     
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    Great so no real answer for any, thanks.
     
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    Um why don't you look up employment numbers when Obama took office and when he left and then you won't look quite so foolish.
     
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    Well if you actually looked them up why don't you post them. Because they will make you look foolish, perhaps! Somehow for someone who claims to be a numbers guy your posts are remarkably devoid of actual facts or data.
     
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    exactly correct. Lefties love spewing their stupid bogus numbers claims. Every person reading this damn well knows we lost jobs under obama. All you had to do was drive around any town in the U.S.
     
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    Answer #1. Build a wall, enforce our immigration laws and toss out anyone here illegally
    Answer #2. Repeal Obamacare, go back to the way it was.

    And I did ask you what your policy ideas were for NK and Syria and you didn't answer.
     

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