Special Forces soldier livestreams himself being waterboarded and claims it is not torture

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  1. US Conservative

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    Khaild sheik mohammed (**** be upon him) used to laugh about getting water boarded.

    He'd just hold his breath to 10 seconds. He knew where the CIA would stop.

    I'd prefer he didn't know where the blender was going to stop chopping off his fingers and hands.
     
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    I just discovered that Congress used the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) witch hunt that the 14 Al Qaeda detainees had their feelings hurt because they weren't treated politically correct. It's here -> "ICRC Report on the Treatment of Fourteen 'High Value Detainees' in CIA Custody"(PDF).


    The same ICRC who decided that the M-16 A1 rifle chambered for the really nasty 5.56 X 45 mm 55 gr. M193 cartridge wasn't politically correct and killed Charley (NVA/VC) inhumanly.

    Give me a freaking break, is there a PC way to kill someone who's trying to kill you on the battlefield ? The ICRC seems to think so.

     
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    So water boarding is useless and a waste of valuable time.
     
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    It's called logic and critical thinking ;).
     
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    Had both done to me.
     
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    You cannot hold your breath while being waterboarded. Maybe for a couple of seconds, but water *will* spill up your nostrils and into your throat invoking the cough/gag reflex and then you're toast. If you know nothing will happen it may be easier to withstand, but even those only last for 30s tops. Imagine you realize they let you actually drown because you know some of your fellow inmates never returned to their cells.

    https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=448717

    Nice read about someone inflicting it on himself in gradual increments.
     
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    Then you are dead. Afraid not. I can hold my breath underwater for 2 minutes, sometimes a little more...sorry 'boutcha...
     
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    Google it! It is in the Fox Archives.
     
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    Oh...cannot backup your claim. Shocked. You said it, you back it up...
     
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    So ****ing what? It's torture. You know it's torture. You're just toeing a line to befit your endorsement of all things Trump/Bush/Militarist Authoritarianism.
     
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    Bullshit. It's discomfort, not torture. And, as I have previously stated, a terrorist's comfort MEANS NOTHING TO ME...
     
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    Looks like your complaint is with CHARLES GRODIN, not Sean Hannity. Has Hannity refused to let Grodin waterboard him since then?

    THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE OFFERED, btw, as you and the rest of the PAF left conveniently leave out of your frothy-mouthed nonsense.

    Get a hold of Grodin, and demand he follow through...
     
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    The entire idea behind torture is to use discomfort, pain, any means of extrajudicial infliction of fear to obtain information - and a lot of that info is bad info. Also, "terrorists" comforts should mean something to you, because torture is illegal in international law, and as far as international law is concerned, George Bush and his entire cabinet are criminals.

    Gina Haspel is a war criminal.
     
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    My point. Was simple and factual. Hannity agreed to be waterboarded. Some people deny that he did. I showed proof that he did. My job is done.
     
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    The fix is in. The left done went and counted to three. Reason and common sense are now irrelevant. It's bonafide....water boarding is torture.
     
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    That's just asinine. Many things in life are discomforting and scary. Is living a crime? Bush, his cabinet and Haspel, like all others in the military and government, are defenders of America.
     
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    Ok, willingly inflicting pain and suffering is entirely different then every day suffering. Your insinuation is preposterous.

    Bush a defender of America? He's a war criminal that executed a massively costly war for no reason on nations not tied to 9/11, all premised on a lie.

    He also signed off on torture.

    He, and his entire cabinet, are war criminals.
     
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    That doesn't mean he watched someone being water boarded.

    Why don't you try it and then tell us if it's torture.
     
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    Sounds like you'd like to make our enemies comfy.
     
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    NO...the terrorists are war criminals. Their discomfort is MEANINGLESS compared to ONE AMERICAN LIFE.
     
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    When were you waterboarded.
     
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    Apologies, but the constitution doesn't care, nor do international laws and treaties we have signed.

    What you support is criminal behavior. You are all about criminals being treated extrajudicially with violence by our police. Why don't you support criminals of this sort meeting the same grisly end?
     
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    And he has not rescinded the offer, ,contrary to the ongoing lie here. My job is done.
     
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    Please quote the US Constitution's wording on the treatment of TERRORISTS.
     

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