Carnage on Gaza border as Palestinians shot dead by Israeli

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is nothing of the sort. This was Colonialism and the simply ethnic cleansing of the people who and I have links from soldiers there -there was no battle from the people who were dispossessed and thrown out of their homes here. That itself is a crime against humanity. There was no excuse for this except for the Zionists to take their lands. You are the person unable to deal with the law. I am imagining that is because you believe you are following your bible and your bible tells you you must harm these people. By law they had the right to return to their homes. They did their march to remind the world of that.
     
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    You blame the Jews but arabs started the war that led to the loss of their land

    They should have accepted the peaceful UN partition
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am simply stating reality. The only reason the refugees were thrown out of their land was because the Zionists wanted it and would you please stop blaming all Jews for the crimes of Zionism. Zionists created a Crime against Humanity here. There was no fighting from the indigenous people. They were not fighting to try and maintain their ancestral homes from European Colonialism. They were just ethnically cleansed. They have kept the keys to the homes which by law are rightfully theirs. Christian Zionists want these people harmed because they believe that Zionists must take this land and more. That is why Christian Zionists in the US made sure there was no Oslo.

    The people who are imprisoned in Gaza were marching to escape the hell they are forced to live under and return to their own land which they have a legal right to do. The Great March of return was to remind the world of that. The World has remembered.
     
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    Only Arabs ethnic cleanse Other Arabs.
    Period.
     
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    Thats not true

    The waring arab nations urged the local arabs to leave because they thought the Jews would be pushed into the sea

    But they were wrong
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stick to the topic. The people on the great march are refugees. They or their parents or grandparents were ethnically cleansed, a crime against humanity from the area they did their great march of return to. They did their march of Return to remind the world of this. The world has remembered.

    (Off topic but the arab armies came in after the Zionists had ethnically cleansed between 3and 400,000 Palestinians similar to the ones who were reminding the world of their situation in the Great March.)
     
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    I’m not buying you abab friendly spin

    All the problems the palestanians have are self induced
     
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    No the problems come from a people being ethnically cleansed from their homes in 48 and when a situation was set in motion to get a compromise in Oslo, a compromise which still would have left these people without 78% of their ancestral homeland, Christian Zionists made sure it was scuppered. Christian Zionists have to be the people with prime responsibility for this inhumanity. They are fanatically religious people who believe they must create in reality what they believe their bible says and that included 'Jews' that is in reality 'Zionists' owning a lot more of the land than Oslo was going to give them and also what they believe they put in the day of this slaughter, 'Jews' ruling Jerusalem, the undivided Capital of Israel. Muslims were dying of Christian Fanaticism long long before they started some of their own.
     
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    Thank you Mr. Trump,
    what an exceptional human being you are.
    So wise, so understanding. Only peace is on your mind.
    But we all know whom you serve......
    Makes Adolf Hitler look like your bro,
    reg.
     
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    Hmm, the terrorist government of Israel continues to kill innocent people and the right loves that.
     
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    They deserve it.
     
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    I found the original New York article. It's behind a paywall, but even from the heading it's obvious that it doesn't match the Archive item linked in your post.

    Archive Item:
    New York Times article:
    https://www.nytimes.com/1948/12/04/...-of-menachen-begin-and-aims-of-political.html

    The New York Times article clearly doesn't begin like a letter. I wonder if there are any subscribers to the New York Times on the forum, maybe one of them will be able to shed some light on this matter.

    Anyway, even if the letter is genuine and signed as advertised, it's still not proof of anything. It's just an opinion.

    You are aware that the successive governments of Israel, starting in the late 40s, were left wing and formed coalitions with far left, quietly pro-Soviet, parties like Mapam until the late 70s, aren't you? Netanyahu is not that old, you know....
     
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    Their homes were in Jordan in '48. They should go home.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another person unaware of history. 70% of the people of Gaza are refugees from the area of Israel that they were doing their Great March of return to. The time for Rewriting history is over.
     
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    If Israel pulled up all the plumbing and returned the entire area back to it's original condition, undeveloped dirt, and left, the "Palestinians" would go back to Jordan the same day. They are only there to try and take what the Israelis have created.
     
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    The original British Mandate included the territory of Jordan. In fact, the Arabs received over 70% of the British Mandate, including the Eastern Palestine (historic Palestine stretched on both sides of the river Jordan). Of course they were not interested in the UN partition, since they were sure they can have it all, with the brand new Jordanian army trained and led by experienced British officers.

    The maps of "the lost Arab homeland Palestine", ignoring the first partition in 1921, are just a scam, since historic Palestine was about twice this size, and the Arabs own more than half. The Jewish state occupies less than 30% of the original British Mandate.
     
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    Oh, yes. Of course the photojournalist has been vetted, just like Rasmeah Odeh. Took the US nineteen years to find out the truth about Odeh.

    Are you sure the US bureaucracy is perfect and infallible?
     
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    I assume you support the filthy pro Jihado BDS
     
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    You never did answer my question as to whether you were one of those Christian Right wanting a Muslim genocide but your posts say it all. You believe in killing and maiming thousands of young men for using their right to protest wrongs done to them just because they are Muslim.
     
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    Taking words in my posts out of context and pretending I said something I didn't say will not help you win the argument.

    Rocks kill, rock throwers know that, they keep throwing rocks, that's attempted murder.

    The part where is no proof whatsoever to back your assertion. That part.

    Sanctions must be enforced somehow, blockade is one way of doing it. The Quartet was very straightforward about imposing the sanctions by any means necessary, including blockade, That was the trigger for the Istanbul Declaration.

    Fresh out of arguments?

    I have neither the patience, nor the inclination to babysit tantrum throwing adults unable to deal with opposing opinions. If, as your Nazi slur seems to show, you fit this description, please let me know. My time is precious.

    How can you tell where were they shot?

    Why are so sure the very vast majority of those killed and wounded had nothing to do with hamas? Did you know each and every one of them personally?

    My friend's daughter is in a hospital as a result of "innocent civilians' activity" in Gaza. Are you on the Israeli side of the Gaza border to know exactly what our civilians are going through?

    Mengele springs to mind..
     
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    Nobody's perfect.
     
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    Emily Thornberry speaking in the house of commons yesterday about this killing and maiming of unarmed protesters, mainly of them shot in the back, many of them shot hundreds of meters from the border and many of them/pause/ children and speaking about how the Israelis were using the bullets which could do the most damage to the young people who were being attacked. Palestinians have been reporting that Israel has been using these bullets against them since the Great March of Return started.

    https://news.sky.com/video/square-video-thornberry-gaza-ready-001mp4-11373791
     
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    Jews have lived, and thrived, in Gaza for millennia. Don't Jews have the right to return to the houses Jews had to leave behind following the Egyptian occupation of Gaza? Do you support the right of Jews to return to their homes in Gaza?
     

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