I read bits and pieces....yes, what does someone expect when you try to take away the right to their own bodies.???? And a Really Stupid journalist doesn't like a segment of a group so he thinks their rights should be taken away....that's quite hysterical and definitely intolerant. AND nothing is more intolerant and hysterical than killing doctors who perform abortions.
Why are accusing me of exactly what you are doing ? You stated that you made your abortion decisions based on the hysteria of others ? My pointing out that this is irrational is not "intolerance". One question I have is whether your stance on abortion is that you do not like abortion personally ? or do you also support legislation banning the practice ?
Ban it. But no abortions after 12 weeks is more achievable. Make contraception and condoms free so that the only excuse for having an abortion is your own carelessness. No funding for Planned Parenthood which is a horrible organization even if you support abortion.
OK so initially you complained about intolerance You claim that you made your decision to support banning of abortion based on the hysteria of others. By supporting a law you support forcing your belief on others through physical violence (such is the nature of law). Your justification for forcing your belief on others through physical violence is because you feel that some group of people are hysterical. How is this not the pinnacle of intolerance ? (aside from the inherent logical fallacy - not all pro choice people are hysterical but, even if they were why would you want to punish one person for the actions of another - this is a violation of the rule of law )
. How intolerant! Who pays for your "free" contraceptives?......and where is the law that says people must use them? Oh, and women don't need the excuse of carelessness, they can get an abortion for any reason they choose My, my, what a hysterical (and baseless) claim...
Who has forced you to pay for an abortion? Killing doctors who perform abortions is pretty intolerant AND hysterical... and they weren't killed by Pro-Choicers. Standing outside clinics and blocking the way in and yelling at patients as they enter and leave isn't very tolerant and was not done by Pro-Choicers. And you still haven't said what an extremist Pro-Choicer is...
Saying "pro choice are fanatics" does not make them intolerant - or fanatics for that matter. You never gave any support for these claims so while you used the term intolerance - you did not justify that claim. You can change your mind however you like... its a free country. Anyone can have an opinion but, is it informed ? Then you call me dense - on the basis of a strawman fallacy - I never claimed you were not allowed to change your mind. What I did say is that you are the intolerant one - and Pro-Life in general are intolerant. You then go on to prove your ignorance (you used the term dense) by proving that you do not understand what the implication of making a law is.. Making a law against abortion -by definition - allows the State to use physical violence, fine, imprisonment or other form of coercion to prevent or punish people who would obtain or perform abortions. This is Political Science 100. That some authority is given the power to punish violators of codes of conduct = Law. Don't blame me for your lack of understanding of what law is. Your lack of understanding does others - who actually do understand - dishonest and hysterical. Then you try to move the goal posts by discussing who should pay for abortions. This has nothing to do with whether or not abortion should be banned. I do think people should take personal responsibility. If there is an unintended pregnancy the responsible thing to do - for those that do not want a child - is to have an abortion as soon as possible. The irresponsible thing to do would be to let the pregnancy progress to the point where a living human can be said to exist. What is hysterical dishonesty is claiming "its a baby" at the zygote stage as if the claimant can prove this claim true.
More gibberish from you and Foxhastings. Neither one are worth responding to. And since the moderator deletes my post while you are free to insult me I won't be posting in this place again.
I havn't insulted you personally. You have been the one that has been doing little but spewing out insults and fallacy. My calling you out on your actions is not against Forum policy. The reason you do not want to respond is because you have no valid material with which to respond with !. You have railed against intolerance and generalized this intolerance to all on the choice side of the abortion debate but, it turns out that it is you that is intolerant (along with your anti-abort brethren) by wanting to force your personal beliefs on others through physical violence (Law).
This isn't gibberish, just something you can't address """""""Who has forced you to pay for an abortion? (WHY CAN'T YOU ANSWER??) Killing doctors who perform abortions is pretty intolerant AND hysterical... and they weren't killed by Pro-Choicers. Standing outside clinics and blocking the way in and yelling at patients as they enter and leave isn't very tolerant and was not done by Pro-Choicers. And you still haven't said what an extremist Pro-Choicer is..."""""
It's your side that doesn't want to discuss the killing of unborn babies and instead hide behind the moniker of "pro-choice" and then try to silence the debate with the "you just want to enslave women" nonsense.
WTF? Look at the Abortion Forum, I'm all over it DISCUSSING abortion!!! I am NOT HIDING behind or from anything...The word Pro-Choice is exactly what I believe in...that women should be free to choose, unlike Anti-Choicers who believe woman have no rights or choice. How would that "silence the debate" ? Anyone and everyone has the right to post here, WTF are you talking about? YES, if one wants to take away women's right to their own bodies that IS enslavement....
I have continually discussed the choice, either abortion or pregnancy....it's the Anti-Choicers who don't want to discuss choice. They want women to have only one "choice" and that isn't a "choice" at all. BTW, You should try addressing the posts of mine you quote so it wouldn't be so obvious that you haven't read them (or can't address them) before responding.
No, I don't think people should be allowed to kill babies and I have NEVER said it should be a choice. I have discussed endlessly the choice a pregnant woman has, to abort or to gestate...two choices. You claiming I don't discuss the choices is false and obviously you couldn't prove your false claim... NOTED: you had to leave out the parts of my post you could NOT address either abortion or pregnancy....it's the Anti-Choicers who don't want to discuss choice. They want women to have only one "choice" and that isn't a "choice" at all. BTW, You should try addressing the posts of mine you quote so it wouldn't be so obvious that you haven't read them (or can't address them) before responding.
FoxHastings said: ↑ No, I don't think people should be allowed to kill babies and I have NEVER said it should be a choice. I have discussed endlessly the choice a pregnant woman has, to abort or to gestate...two choices. You claiming I don't discuss the choices is false and obviously you couldn't prove your false claim... NOTED: you had to leave out the parts of my post you could NOT address either abortion or pregnancy....it's the Anti-Choicers who don't want to discuss choice. They want women to have only one "choice" and that isn't a "choice" at all. BTW, You should try addressing the posts of mine you quote so it wouldn't be so obvious that you haven't read them (or can't address them) before responding. Address my post and then I'll address yours
LOL! You saying your point was proven does not prove your point, (whatever it was, seems you can't define your point)
Unless you can prove the mighty zygote is a baby/child/ living human - it is fallacious nonsense to defaco claim that a baby exists in the early stages of pregnancy. You have been schooled in the fact that your claim is fallacious nonsense numerous times. You are the one that continues to hide - from the fact that your claim is fallacy.
No one has yet to refute the many many medical and government sites to which I have linked and quoted. And since the zygote stage of life only last about 4 days you point is moot, rarely are zygote's killed in an abortion.
Feel free to refute all the medical and government sites to which I have linked. You nor anyone else has ever done so.
