Stop Trying to Position Atheism as Merely a Lack of Belief

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  1. it's just me

    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    One of the many things that drives me nuts about atheists/leftists is their propensity to politicize EVERYTHING, which makes their arguments ring hollow, and it doesn't matter what the subject is.

    Be happy with your straw man argument, I won't bother trying to change your mind.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    I provided attribution for the source at the bottom, you should have finished the post before jumping in with both feet.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    Truth is something you are unfamiliar with.
     
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    :roflol:

    IRONIC given that is NOTABLE by it's ongoing ABSENCE from your posts.
     
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    I'm still trying to figure out why you're even talking about doublespeak to begin with when I gave a clear cut description of why religious folks having "faith" is wrong. It sounds like my point hit closer to home than you'd care to admit.
     
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    Puerile given that you have only two responses to anything.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    What you did was to redefine the meanings of terms and come up with an elaborate and illogical mishmash of fatuous nonsense that could have been sourced from The Onion. Not sure what you were aiming at but it reminds me of the saying about not being able to hit the side of a barn...from the inside!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Yup!

    The first is to expose the vacuous content of your posts and the second is to be amused by your reactions to those exposures.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    Ironic...
     
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    Flatterer!
     
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    That's music to their ears.
     
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    Not at all. We could have no axial tilt and Earth would still be perfectly habitable for humans.
     
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    1. Einstein never provided evidence of this supposed “nothing”.

    2. So now you are claiming that the biochemical processes behind life don’t exist? Because those would be the tools in this context.

    3. Mars had a magnetic field several billion years ago, but it’s lack of one has nothing to do with its distance from the sun and everything to do with the make up of its core.
     
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    But we DO have axial tilt, and you have no proof of your claim.

    The point is, you take at least as much on faith as you think I do.
     
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    There’s no faith involved. We know what the axial tilt does: causes a wider variety of seasons at more wide bands of latitude.

    Without an axial tilt, seasons would be milder because they would only be affect by distance from the sun and not the angle of light. And without an axial tilt, latitude would be a bigger determinant of temperature and climate.
     
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    I didn't say any such thing, just following your analogy to it's logical conclusion, but you still haven't explained how "biochemical processes" go from non life to life. It ain't like building a house, which will still be an inanimate object.
     
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    Except we know how amino acids bond to form DNA and RNA. We know how RNA chains can form simple self-replicating structures. Simple self-replicating structures are the exact precursors to simple life forms.
     
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    So you are saying Christians in the US haven’t for instance tried to force their beliefs on say...abortion or gay marriage on other people through the law?
     
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    Strawman you say? Maybe you should actually read the bible.

    Leviticus 20
    13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

    John 3
    3 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    1 Corinthians 14
    34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
    35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
     
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    But you have yet to produce these life forms. I thought science was supposed to be observable.
     
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    I've read the Bible and I know what it means. What it does not mean is the other side of your petty politics, which didn't even exist 2000 - 3000 years ago.
     
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    Science has been doing these experiments for less than 60 years. It took natural processes more than a billion years to get as far as science has and took hundreds of millions more years to produce single cell life.

    You expect science to beat a timetable that had literally the entire earth as a experimental site and millions upon millions of years of trial and error.
     
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    So women having rights, gays being able to live, and people not being tortured for their beliefs is just "petty politics?" Here are real politics according to the bible. Obey your dictator because he was appointed by God and the American Revolution was wrong.

    Romans 13
    1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
    2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
    3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended.
    4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
    5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
    6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing.
    7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
     
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    Politically speaking, I, for one, couldn't care less. If you want to abort your bloodline out of existence, that works for me. I used to say, "I wish you would".

    I don't care if you want to do the horizontal mambo with another guy.

    But, even if you don't think life is sacred, or that your body is sacred, I do, and personally, I don't know how abortion advocates can sleep at night while complaining about school shootings.

    Marriage was male/female before you were ever even born, there was no need to change it.
     
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    Sure there was. Gays wanted to get married. Why should the law stop them? No one is going to force Christians to get gay married, so why the vehement opposition?
     

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