The death of the death of PC.

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  1. Questerr

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    What kinds of “facts” would those be?
     
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    Blacks aren't as smart, Jews are, etc.
     
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    How about the average white person in the US has a higher IQ than 85% of the blacks in the US.
     
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    Told ya. How smart are Caucasians vs JEWS?
     
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    Exactly. Keep spreading the same lies over and over, dog whistles for the trained audience.
     
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    Do those statistics account for things like income and quality of education?
     
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    BTW, are you trying to say black people are naturally inferior to whites?

    That definitely is going to help fight the stereotype that Conservatives are white supremacists.
     
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    Of course.

    The children of poor whites outperform the children of upper middle class blacks, on average.
     
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    Source?
     
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    look at all the extra time you have on your hands. You should be working.
     
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    Just because a liberal calls you bigoted and racist doesn't mean you are not.
     
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    https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf
    On page 263.

    "This hypothesis has been tested and the predictions
    confirmed. Regression would explain why Black children born to high IQ,
    wealthy Black parents have test scores 2 to 4 points lower than do White children
    born to low IQ, poor White parents (Jensen, 1998b, p. 358. "

    But read the whole thing. You will find that the entire gamut of liberal alibis has been tested and disproven.
     
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    Note to those with clearer heads-
    How we debate anything must be subject to some terms, some parameters that define the difference between a discussion and a pissing match or arguing economics logic with a 8-year old who's solel objective is that you must buy them a cell phone.

    There must be common sense rules that apply equally. Being fair, making points that are real and logical rather than imaginary, using a single ruler to measure evidence on both sides- and not denying facts you don't want to hear. These are the terms that left-think discards out of hand as unfair- and then uses the same precepts it attacks when others use them.

    When people can't adhere to a uniform set of terms, their will be no discussion- and left-think won't allow that. It will not be discussion, it will be only ranting and venting, trying to pull people into a fake "discussion" as if they were willing to examine differences and come to better understanding. Won't happen.
     
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    Interesting...I wonder why you left out the quote just a couple sentences later saying “The same applies to high IQ white parents”?
     
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    It didn't seem relevant. What do you suppose it means?
     
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    It didn't seem relevant. What do you suppose it means?
     
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    Exactly what it says: that the children of high IQ rich whites also show regression in their IQ. Seems to have nothing to do with race and everything to do with the child-reading practices of the wealthy.
     
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    Right, their intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from their own should be taken seriously.
     
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    Regression to the mean is a phenomenon that indicates intelligence is genetic, not environmental. It has nothing to do with child rearing practices.
     
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    So then why does the report say it occurs in wealthy high IQ blacks and whites?

    Are wealthy people just genetically inferior?
     
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    "Regression toward the mean provides still another method of testing if the
    group differences are genetic. Regression toward the mean is seen, on average,
    when individuals with high IQ scores mate and their children show lower scores
    than their parents. This is because the parents pass on some, but not all, of their
    genes to their offspring. The converse happens for low IQ parents; they have
    children with somewhat higher IQs. Although parents pass on a random half of
    their genes to their offspring, they cannot pass on the particular combinations of
    genes that cause their own exceptionality."

    (ibid)
     
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    And then it says the same thing happens with high IQ wealthy whites.

    I’m sorry but this isn’t saying what you want it to say.

    If anything, this is evidence against the claim that generationally wealthy people (for instance, the Trump family) are in anyway superior.
     
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    But that is not the claim I am making. I am claiming that Blacks are less intelligent than Whites and that is due to genetics, not environment.
     

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