Are YOU Brainwashed - under the influence of mind control

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    How else could millions of people be convinced of an obvious lie (marijuana is as dangerous as heroin) if they weren't the victims of mind control?

    True to an extent. Laws are supposed to reflect the underlying will and sentiments of the people. The only problem is that many laws within the context of the USA do no such thing. Instead, they are fabricated out of thin air by a tiny ruling elite and then foisted on the people through manufactured consent and coercion when necessary.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not convinced that millions of people are convinced that marijuana is as dangerous as heroin.
     
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    I'm far less concerned about the possibility of top-down mind control employed through traditional media than I am the possibility of bottom-up hysteria resulting in wildly inaccurate views of the world arising as a natural consequence of media technology.
     
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    Is your community under the nefarious influence of Satanic cult activity? That you don't see any of it means it's almost certainly there and your community is in denial.

    Do you drink? If you claim that you can stop drinking any time you like, then you are almost certainly an alcoholic in denial.

    There are many points on the way from "influence" to "mind control," and most people's attitudes on laws, drugs or anything else are more likely to be "influenced" than "mind controlled."

    I do note a tendency in overconsumers of marijuana to be hyperbolic, am that way myself when I have smoked it. Maybe overuse of terms like "mind control" is a symptom?

    The left loves NORML talk, but the political reality is that marijuana crime enforcement, probation, counseling, etc. represents a HUGE revenue stream for the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex to give up, so when push comes to shove, when the last RW Church Lady obstacle to marijuana legalization is removed, you'll still see it illegal for years to come in most of the country. Watch.
     
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    Suffice it to say you have some very odd ideas about what constitutes mind control. Just for openers how would you know if you are being mind controlled? Propaganda is not mind control. It is an attempt to move your thinking in a given direction but it cannot force you to go there. Most people are preprogrammed to avoid conflict especially with those they care about.
     
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    What other justification could there possibly be for any law?
     
  7. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which justification are you referring to ? I gave two.
     
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    That you don't like the activity being proscribed.
     
  9. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not valid justification for making law in a society that believes in individual liberty.

    There is a difference between 1) having a belief and 2) forcing that belief on others through physical violence (Law)

    If one does not like alcohol - don't drink. Not liking alcohol personally is not valid justification to force one's belief on others.

    This is on par with "God says so" ... this is another invalid justification.
     
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    Exactly! And that is the way many Native Tribes in America worked, which was the guide for their philosophy and spirituality! Their development of "The Greater Meaning of Free Speech" and the 9th Amendment are examples of that teaching direct to the unconscious mind starting early, which led to exceptional thinking later on in life.
     
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    I didn't know Native Americas has a 9th Amendment or are you inventing things again?
     
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    Invalidates your whole argument. You are trying to argue mental control tempered with physical control, violence. There can be no justification for violence, ever. Force is only valid as a means of work and self defense.
     
  13. Giftedone

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    Not sure what planet you come from but every legal system on this planet uses violence to enforce codes of conduct. We call it Law.
     
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    Are YOU Brainwashed? Are you?
     
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    Of course you wouldn't be sure and it shows. Government is violence, period. Government is rules so great they can only be enforced at the barrel of a gun. Regardless of what you choose to call things does not make it so. You may call it law but it's not.

    "I've come to realize that the biggest problem anywhere in the world is that people's perceptions of reality are compulsively filtered through the screening mesh of what they want, and do not want, to be true." - Travis Walton

    Solipsism, from the Latin adjective solus: "alone" and the Latin pronoun ipse: "self". The ideology that only one's own mind is sure to exist. Solipsists contend that knowledge of anything outside of one's own mind is unsure, hence there is no such thing as objective truth, and nothing about the external world and it's workings can actually be known. A perception they are god, Solipsist are mentally ill.
     
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    You are the one that is compulsively filtered - by what ideology I am not sure but it has nothing to do with reality.

    I agree that Gov't is violence. What does this have to do with anything ?

    What you are suggesting is anarchy - no Law.

    The raging masses are by nature egotistical, greedy, violent, ignorant, and a whole host of other unpleasant things.

    When there was no Gov't -and no law - the world was a violent and nasty place - just like it is now but different.

    People formed into groups. This was for social reasons but also for protection. Codes of conduct developed within these groups. It does not do one much good to be protected from outside the group if one is not protected from others within the group.

    It does not do any good to have codes of conduct if there is no consequence/ punishment for violators of those codes.

    The people then gave power to some authority to punish violators. This power however was to be extremely limited - a no man wants to be ruled over by another. The power was given only for protection from direct harm - one person on another - rape, murder, theft and so on.

    Law gives some authority the power to punish for violation of codes of conduct.

    What punishment do you suggest for violators - murder for example ? One that does not include physical violence ?
     
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    When I was reading the OP the first thought that crossed my mind was Jim Jones and Jonestown. I could never understand how that could happen and now that I'm seeing what trump can do with Kool-Aid it's still hard to believe.
     
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    Destructive cults such as Jones are an extreme example of religious mind control using very sophisticate mind control techniques. I had a friend of mine get involved in a destructive Christian cult = they are intentionally using sophisticated techniques. This got me interested in the subject and I learned the basics of how this is done. If you are interested let me know.

    Control of information can also serve to change peoples perceptions in a way such that their actions are changed. This is why the fact that our MSM is controlled (not fair and free) is so troubling.

    There is no such thing as a functional democratic process when the message is controlled. Things get even worse when the media becomes a propaganda arm of the State ( in our case this this is referred to as the Establishment).

    It is now legal (since 2013) for our intelligence agencies to create and disseminate propaganda on US citizens.
     
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    I see how it's done. I see it every day. Keep repeating something over and over again and the more you do, the more people will buy it. It's often referred to as 'drinking the Kool-Aid'.
     
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    That is part of it - hence why Muslims are instructed to pray 5 times day. Repetition is a useful technique.

    It is all too common to see people blindly believing something because it has been repeated ad nauseam. "Iran is the #1 State Sponsor of Terror" for example :)

    "if it saves one life/Harm reduction" of its own volition touted as a valid justification for law that messes with individual liberty is a better example. Fallacious Utilitarianism = Totalitarianism in sheeps clothing.

    That piece of propaganda has allowed Gov't to do an end run around the main principle on which this nation was founded.
     
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    Then why is it so difficult to get the laws changed? Why do such laws even exist in the first place?
     
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    I doubt that it's due to brainwashing.

    More like: Insufficient political pressure is put on legislators.

    Beyond that I can only guess.
     
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    The primary principle was that we elect our leaders. That the people have a say rather than have kings and priests dictate to us.
     
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    I came of age in Colorado. They decriminalized Marihuana in 1975 when I was a teenager. The worse the state could get you for was a $100 fine. I’ve grown and smoked it throughout my adult life. When it became legal, nothing really changed for me.


    Here is an interesting fact. Of the states that first gave women the vote are also among the first to decriminalize and then legalize marihuana. They also tend to lean liberal, except in Wyoming of course. But then liberalism is about moving forward isn’t it.
     
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    My personal view is that use of marijuana should not be illegal. It should be subject to the same restrictions as alcohol, though.

    Of first importance; it being illegal is an unreasonable restriction of personal freedom, by government.

    Secondly, I believe it takes a revenue source away from criminals.


    Have you seen, or heard of, any negative effects on criminals?
     
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