'Swatting' David Hogg wasn't a 'prank,' it was attempted murder

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  1. Primus Epic

    Primus Epic Well-Known Member

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    There is a world of difference between a Black Activist and Black Global Pan Africanism. There are many Black Activists with their head in the sand, confused and completely under-educated about how they became a NOW controlled Black Activist. Jessie Jackson and the New Black Panther Party are but two chilling examples of this. Likewise, there are many NWO controlled so-called Republican Patriots who don't have the slightest clue how they are being used, manipulated and duped into the NWO architecture. So, they walk around with smug chips on their shoulder thinking that they are superior to Blacks and other People of Color. Both the Black Activist and the White Supremacist are morons without a clue about what is truly going on in the world and ow they are being used to fulfill the mandate of a one world government controlled by elitists.

    The Black Global Pan African is clear in their thought, abundantly clear in their soul and very well connected to the Ancestral message that gives then guidance and direction. They are fully awake, conscious and aware of what's wrong with the world and how to fix it. And, they are very active. Just not in ways that you would understand.... for now.
     
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    Why would law enforcement be barging into someone house based solely off phone calls?
    That alone shouldn’t be probable cause.

    Instead of always trying to blame someone else. Why do the people who live in those areas excuse their usually democrat leaders, that set the policies where they live?

    Democrat mayors, Democrat city councils and their appointed police chiefs, as well as elected Democrat sheriffs. Can’t be there fault though lol. It has to be those “redneck white folks” who live out In the more rural areas that cause the abuses of power in the cities.


    Wonder what areas the extra laws so many Democrats wants passed, will be enforced and against whom will they more regularly be enforced against? In their fantasies I’m sure it is all the “gun nuts” in the NRA and the ones that post against more gun laws here. If they aren’t detached from reality they shouldn’t need Maury to determine “that is a lie”.
     
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  3. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not black. I have a gun. I only need one. EVER. I had to learn to shoot from the hip, as a crazed viet vet spec ops dude told his shrink he was going to do a mass shooting at my work, with ME first up. I am VERY GOOD with no aim, just snap draw. from low high or any way.

    But, had I brought my gun to the door, I would be dead.
     
  4. Lesh

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    But swatting is a whole nother animal.

    It is essentially attempted murder
     
  5. Lesh

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    It happens often. Don't be ignorant
     
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    I didn’t say it didn’t happen often. Doesn’t change the question I asked. To go barging in someone house should need either a judge to sign a warrant or a officer actually seeing something that gave them probable cause.

    Ignorant would be not blaming the officials that allow a phone call alone to justify sending a swat team to raid someone house.
     
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    You can’t prove intent unless you can find a motive, but manslaughter is pretty easy if you can prove they did it.
     
  8. southshorebob

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    If you don't want to elaborate, I understand. But what was the corruption that the cop/judge corruption that you busted them for? Warrants or something?
     
  9. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They said, A LOT OF PEOPLE DONTKNOW THIS BUT, splitting lanes is always illegal. They all were in on it. They bust warriors on leave, and then, they ship out and HAVE to pay. It was a scam to fund the police. They were on foot EVERY DAY, at that crosswalk, where the line was a half mile from the blinking lights crosswalk. I said it was mordida, and that having cops doing corruption on foot, will see them shot. I pulled NO punches.
     
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    If someone had been killed, which is always a very real possibility in these situations, the prankster could be charged with murder. Saying that whoever did this is guilty of attempted murder is not too much of a stretch at all. What ever Red hatted idiot that did this should have his house swatted and if he isn't killed he should be locked the f*ck up just st like the moron Fox News watching Clinton hater that took a shot at some pizza man after hearing about Hillary's baby killing pizza place.
     
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    Just to be clear:

    Police were intentionally issuing citations to military members on motorcycles for illegally running through traffic in between lanes. And the police were doing it by walking in crosswalks. And you threatened to see them all shot.

    That sum it up?
     
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    Not exactly. They were busting EVERY bike that split lanes, at a walking pace, at an attractive nuisance. A blinking crosswalk, in Del Mar. And warriors, on leave, would cruise Del Mar, get the ticket, and ship out, now unable to fight the ticket. So, they would OBVIOUSLY just pay it.

    The cops started doing it on foot. Standing there at the crosswalk, waving over EVERY motorcycle. That corruption, with them in the same spot, every day, would see them harmed. GUARANTEED. And I said so. I called the scam mordida, which is when the cops stop you in mexico, and give you either a bribe fine, or throw you in jail.

    Kamala Harris, enjoined my plea, after the judge also conspired, and I got his ass on tape, of course, so the whole scheme was busted, and disbanded.
     
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    I don't know man. I'm conflicted on this. As much as I enjoy sticking one to the man. Why wouldn't they just stop splitting lanes at that intersection? And you say they wouldn't be able to fight the ticket. What is there to fight? A traffic violation was committed. The person was issued a citation for something they are obviously guilty of. And the next dumb ass on a motorcycle did the exact same thing. I'm sure the judge thought it was funny.

    I've rode. I've split lanes. But this doesn't make sense. We know splitting lanes is pretty much illegal and normally you are exceeding the speed limit when you're doing it. I don't like many laws, but being on a bike doesn't give you the right to cut in front of everyone else.

    And you also have not elaborated on the statement you would "see them all shot."
     
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    After he changed his shorts. How ironic it would be if he had been killed by an AR15 wielding SWAT team member.
     
  15. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    THERE IS no law against splitting lanes, THEY INVENTED IT.

    The RULES of splitting lanes USED to be clear. Then, they PURPOSELY took those rules OFF the website. It USED to tell you, you cannot exceed 15mph faster than traffic, and you cannot exceed 35mph. And, you cannot meander from lane to lane. These are common sense rules, and when followed, make splitting lanes SAFER by FAR, as most accidents, are the idiot biker that didn't split lanes, and a guy comes up and clobbers him. Not seeing him.

    The HARRY HURT report on motorcycle safety was what I sited as my proof. It was viable expert testimony.
     
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    So what was the violation the cyclists were being charged with?
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The REASON why David Hogg, and even the local police PLAYED IT OFF, as a prank, is to DISSUADE copycats, as there are a HELL OF A LOT of right wingers that fantasize about squeezing that trigger themselves.
     
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    Splitting lanes. They used a bogus reference to basic safety etc. A scam that they all conspired in.
     
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    I see no problem here, the Hogg's residence is private property meaning hog hunting is legal all year long in the state of Florida.

     
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    Ironic?

    Yea...it would be that.

    It would also be murder
     
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    In all probability it's a fellow student. One who'll no doubt be protected by Broward city schools adaption of Obama's "restorative justice" legislation. Stew on that awhile ... :lol:
     
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    Something in your post caught my attention and I assumed you were. My mistake.

    Outstanding. You are a 2A supporter as well.

    I certainly respect the personal opinion. Mine is that - I can never have enough. That includes ammunition as well. Probably the reason why I bought a Dillion Super 1050 with Mark7. Runs like a charm with minimal supervision. Never had a problem on the range or in training with my loads.


    Narcissists. Psychiatric research that I've read estimates that 1 in 100 Americans is a Narcissist, with a growing number of Covert Narcissists. Tough spot to be in - especially if he's former SO.


    I've got no problem with Point Shooting. I train on it, too. I do standard sight shooting drills as one would normally. I then work my way into point shooting drills during the same training cycle. The net affect adrenaline will have on body and brain during a life or death event can be debilitating to fine motor skills, vision, respiration and even your inner ear - causing balance issues. Learning to properly cope with fear, is the first thing to train on. It has nothing to do with Firearms, but it is essential to self-defense. For that, I work on free solo climbing to my physical limit. It is not about climbing El Capitan, for me personally. Its about getting into and out of a fear mindset, understanding why the fear exists in real-time and then getting my brain and body accustomed to working through fear. Its all part of my personal Firearms Training regime. Bringing mind and body under control under stress and performing when called upon.


    That is correct. Given that level of force being levied against you and the fact that you are clearly not prepared to counter that level of force correctly, I tend to agree that you did the right thing. Firearms for self-defense is a personal philosophical decision that becomes a way of life. It is not a hobby at that level. One either makes the conscious and well researched decision to commit to everything that such a way of life entails, or one should probably not dabble.

    There should never be a gunfight inside your home in the first instance. If someone is breaching your structure that way, then that means you did not have enough time to put yourself into a superior defensive position that you can turn into an offensive position demand - for defensive purposes (it is always about self-defense).

    The reason you had no such time is because you more than likely did not have early warning detection, monitoring and tracking. You need eyes-on the intruder(s) while they have no eyes on you. You need eyes outside your home in order to see what your trespassers and intruder(s) cannot possibly know that you already know about their status. You then need a way to clearly communicate with your trespasser(s)/intruder(s) outside on the perimeter, long before they attempt a breach. This is where any negotiation takes place - if there is to be any negotiation at all. Absent that, you are always in a position of re-acting instead of taking the lead on pro-active countermeasures that may become necessary to defend yourself and your family.

    Its a Bitch with a capital "B" - but in this country it could become necessary.

    The moral of the story here is summed up in one word: Preparedness.
     
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    Whoever did this should be punished no matter what side of the political spectrum he/she is on.
     
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    There it is, the whole reason behind this thread was to bring in the "Poor me" episode that these drama's always digress to :)
     
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    I bet Hogg did it to himself. Ppl havnt been paying attention to him much lately. This gun thing is all he's got.
     
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