So you admit making a false statement by omission in the OP? Do you know that men keep creating "new life" in their testicles in the form of sperm? Do you know human beings are continually regenerating, which is one reason we age? Ergo, people, without even having sex, are continually creating "new life". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regeneration_in_humans
Life doesn't begin in the womb unless you think the parents were dead at the time of conception....and if Anti-Choicers think "life " is so precious why do they support separating innocent children from their non-violent parents and putting them in cages ? Cages, like animals......yet they used to be "precious life" Are children garbage to them after they can no longer control a woman by what's in her womb?
You're right, there's no reason to hold them in the U.S. They should be allowed to go back, to either relatives or an orphanage in their own country, until they can be reunited with their parents. Hopefully that will be soon. Of course, if the parents endangered their lives by bringing them along across a long and dangerous desert trek, that's another story.
FoxHastings (the post that was quoted but the uncomfortable parts were taken out : Life doesn't begin in the womb unless you think the parents were dead at the time of conception....and if Anti-Choicers think "life " is so precious why do they support separating innocent children from their non-violent parents and putting them in cages ? Cages, like animals......yet they used to be "precious life" Are children garbage to them after they can no longer control a woman by what's in her womb? I NEVER said that....maybe if you weren't so concerned with cutting out the uncomfortable INCONVENIENT parts of my post you would seen that...or is that yet another 'weasel out" What has THAT got to do with the righties putting "precious life" in cages? WHAT "other story" is it??? Yes, people desperate to escape poverty and death want their children with them...DUH.. You'd probably fault them if they left their kids behind, scream how they abandoned their kids... You say, """if the parents endangered their lives by bringing them along across a long and dangerous desert trek""" Is THAT your excuse for taking "precious life" from their parents and putting them in cages like animals???? ADMIT IT, they aren't that precious when they aren't in the womb any longer and can't be used to control women . ...and gee, golly, a C- for actually replying to a post...You have hope...
#1 fallacy is to assume that birth control is infallible. #2 fallacy is to assume that EFFECTIVE birth control is available to ALL women. #3 fallacy is to assume that bringing an UNWANTED child into this world is the RESPONSIBILITY of the pregnant women when it is actually IRRESPONSIBLE to give birth to an UNWANTED child. #4 fallacy is to blame "the Left" when women all across the political spectrum SUPPORT abortion RIGHTS even if they personally would not have one. #5 fallacy is to presume that you can IMPOSE your personal beliefs on others in this regard. #6 fallacy is to IGNORE the studies and NOT demand that tax dollars be used to provide ALL women with Long Acting Reversible Contraceptives (LARC's) that are PROVEN to reduce unwanted pregnancies by 40%.
Yes, so did the Jews take the risk who came here and were shipped back to their deaths like you want to do with immigrants here For crying out loud, they took the risk to make a better life for their children, fleeing from violence and poverty....but to the hard hearted he solution is put the kids in orphanages...I can’t Imagine you’re a parent
It seems far better to simply say NO at the border than to subject refugees to this treatment. Rejection would be cruel but destroying families is plain evil.
Contrary to your dogma 23% of abortions are because the men want the abortion. Nothing to do with women's right in these cases.
Well, you'll have to prove that and I doubt you can. But yes, it has everything to do with women's rights....women shouldn't be forced to gestate nor forced to have an abortion, both are against the law.
I love your made up statistic but even if the men want the woman to get the abortion it’s still her choice whether she goes to the doctor or not
Not made up. It says a lot about you that you assume I made it up. "Some 23% said their husband or partner wanted her to have an abortion, 68% said they can't afford a baby now, and 51% said they have problems with a relationship or want to avoid single parenthood." https://www.nrlc.org/archive/news/2002/NRL04/strahan.html
It has nothing to do with women's rights. It's at best a necessary evil and mostly a matter of convenience. But "The World Revolves Around Me" crowd want to feel good about themselves so they equate a selfish act with suffragettes putting their lives on the line with feminism.
clg311 said: ↑ Contrary to your dogma 23% of abortions are because the men want the abortion"""""""""""""""""" FoxHastings said: ↑ Well, you'll have to prove that and I doubt you can. AND YOU DIDN'T … But yes, it has everything to do with women's rights....women shouldn't be forced to gestate nor forced to have an abortion, both are against the law. It has everything to do with women's rights...YOU just don't see that women have the same rights as everyone else, the right to their own bodies . A right that is under attack. Abortion rights have NOTHING to do with the reason women get abortions..... And YES, for the millionth time, it IS a matter of convenience. It is INCONVENIENT to have the government take away your right to your own body. It is inconvenient to have a kid you don't want and /or can't afford. You are free to do everything in your life as INconveniently as possible to prove ...something, ..I don't know what....but most people do what is convenient ( which is COMMON SENSE) ....and there is no law against it.
Oh please, stop trying to play semantics. You know that hardly matters. Seriously, and you wonder why I often don't respond to some of your posts?
LOL! Correcting your errors is "playing semantics" ? NOT. There are different words in the English language because they have different meanings......and that's for a reason.. "Life" and "a new life" are two different things. You don't respond to my posts because you have no good response, just excuses.
Is a sperm cell alive? Is an Egg alive? Is a Zygote alive? The answer to these questions will put this thread to rest.
It is still her choice solely .... study by the Alan Guttmacher Institute (AGI), it was found that the quality of the relationship with the child's father and whether or not economic support was available were important factors in abortion decision-making. The man may want her to have an abortion but It ony she who makes the decision, The main reason is they can’t afford a baby
