NASA's Curiosity rover finds organic matter on Mars

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  1. Derideo_Te

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    Yes, and we are not giving up on coming up with ways to solve these problems.

    http://bigthink.com/philip-perry/light-based-computers-may-soon-become-a-reality

    http://bigthink.com/philip-perry/re...ochip-ever-to-convert-light-into-sound-energy

    https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/223671-heres-why-we-dont-have-light-based-computing-just-yet

    It is going to take us time to figure this all out but I have confidence that it will eventually happen.
     
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    Amen. We have a lot we can do on earth.

    I don't see these areas as speeding interstellar communication, though.
     
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    Along with trying to overcome that megalomaniacal national religion of suicidal Islam Christiananality pedophile mentalities still building rock pyramid schemes to the stars like the Pharaohs as if space is the place for the human race; fried & freeze dried all over the place.
     
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    Well, I'm not a physicist and I'm certainly not an expert. But, I do hear astrophysicists claim that the expansion of our universe is accelerating - not staying constant.

    There are detractors, of course. But, the accelerating expansion model met the level of winning a Nobel prize.

    The European satellite Gaia just released measurements of location and movement of a billion stars(!!) That is a stupendous trove of new data that should allow for current understanding to be put to serious test.

    Maybe we'll get a more definitive answer!
     
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    It is not possible for information to travel at speeds greater than the speed of light [in normal space].

    What you are referencing is not a technological problem. It fails fundamentally because you already have the information contained in both waves. In other words, it is not possible to transmit information through destructive interference faster than the original information about the waves arrive. No new information is contained in the interference pattern.

    Note in the video that at no time does a interference fringe arrive where both waves have not already arrived. Information sent would have to be contained in at least one of the two waves. A change in one wave [new information] propagates outward in the wave itself first to any point you wish to consider, and then the interference pattern arrives at that point. So the new information arrives via the interference pattern at a speed less than the speed of light.
     
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    Without considering General Relativity and the idea of spacetime being a fabric rather than just a void, you still have a problem: every massive object of finite density needs space to exist in the first place.
     
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    I presume you are familiar with Boyajian's star.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/...huge-structures-around-boyajian-rsquo-s-star/

    Let us hypothesis that these are artificial structures that is the work of aliens. Let us further suppose that we detected that those structures were causing the dimming to occur in a period pattern that we might recognize such as Pi or the Fibonacci series. This could indicate that the purpose of the structures is to use to shadows as a faster than light means to communicate with other species capable of observing stars with the express purpose of detecting planets.

    What do you believe would be the response of our own cosmologists if they detected this pattern?
     
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    Space is that matrix which matter extends its parts into.
     
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    Agreed! More data will enable us to disprove some of the hypothesis, possibly even including the cyclical model.
     
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    Interesting question. I really have no idea what the response might be to finding life in a different solar system - among cosmologists, those of traditional religions, or other group. It certainly would provide a whole lot to think about!

    As for Tabby's star, there is newer data:
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/search/?q=+Boyajian's+star
     
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    Well yes the Indutry cooperative instituted protocol 3B after manipulating early simians into the African super race in order to increase marathon performance for their Olympical champion units which has allowed them to win 17 intergalactic games in a row. This has angered the Teelusians to the point of possible elimination of the champion race through internal warfare resulting in the slow destruction on young males.
     
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    So odds are standard protocol of the Catholic Church industry in maintaining Islam "death to the infidels" with Knights of Columbus "one nation under God" tautology which led to the Catholic Church "man is God" assassination of JFK will eventually assassinate Trump for a standalone spaceforce of Dalek exterminate, exterminate, exterminate as the 21st century master race where space is the place for the human race except following the same Christiananality super ego pedophile mentality in homicidal sociopsychopathic human farming techniques for olympic survival of the fittest fascists marathon crusade.
     
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    ….Ayup….
     
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    Dust was one of the original possibilities but it would have to be of varying densities and moving at great speed.

    The old saying that picture is worth a 1000 words becomes more effective when you consider that individual pixels can each convey information and therefore combined can send a great deal of information. It might be worthwhile taking a series of images and then comparing the changes between the images to see if there is any pattern that could signify an intentional transmission of data. As with most scientific hypotheses if there is nothing there it will fail without the results.
     
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    Ayup indeed!

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    I find the most viable Tabby Star hypothesis to be Super Earth collisions. If we happen to be witness to a "Grand Attack" scenario the debris field would likely fit observations.
     
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    Agreed! That is the most likely natural explanation for the observations IMO.

    It is just that the Tabby star makes for interesting speculations as to what else might be occurring and I enjoy examining new ways to communicate and transfer information. I suspect that we have only just scratched the surface and there could be data transmissions that we are missing because we still locked into our own limited scope and range of perceptions.
     
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    Hopefully research into quantum entanglement (the only thing faster than light) eventually allows for communication as current physics will prevent any interaction outside our very local area.
     
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    Yes, but only if we can find a way to use to actually transmit information. Right now the result is always random 50% of the time and we cannot predict it which is why it is still a challenge. However there is always the possibility that someone will figure out how to make that happen.
     
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    Probably raised in an area of the USA where missing out on that national religion tautology churchstate lynching enforcement "serve the Pope or die" was the only show of those good ole boys whose Christiananality pedophile mentality super egos were as jolly as Islam "death to the infidels" jihads or Dr Who Daleks' exterminate, exterminate, exterminate......leaving organic fecal matter on Mars......
     
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    What's with the Pedophile fixation and senseless religion bashing....bad memories?
     
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    What's this compulsive-obsessive manipulation for populating Mars being without senseless homicidal sociopsychopathic suicidal Islam Christiananality mentality human farming techniques ?
     
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    Wow...I don't think I've ever seen anyone cram so much garbled nonsense I never mentioned into one single run on troll sentence.

    Have A Nice Day:?
     
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    Little coincidence this cognitive dissonance troll claims garbled nonsense in sentencing with another 'Father of the Country' Trump creating a spaceforce the day after Fathers Day in support of recent missions to Mars directives, just as JFK's starting a space race & then being assassinated so only the Catholic Church Knights of Columbus version of "one nation under God" would be the law of the land; which has now crammed Islam's version of God as the only accepted religious business to be mentioned in Ha ! Mas ! curiosity study in spacetime.
     
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    Eleventy seven diagnostic carbonated cracker one legged duck both the same Wednesdays fifteen rivers crumbled Elephant sneakers, but only demolished decimal cucumbers fried goat cheeses.
     
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