disease X H7N9 could cause world pandemic

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  1. trucker

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    humm 38% kill:buggered: ratio now that pretty deadly:tombstone:
    so i am wondering if this is going to go soon to person to person and through air droplets air :omfg:
    this latest mutation is wave~ 6 of h7n9 i guess:confuse: a comming
    interesting as how it has mutated from the earlier waves here
    http://virologydownunder.com/where-is-h7n9-in-2018/
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    https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/pdf/S2211-1247(18)30442-X.pdf
     
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    its the old zj11 trickaro on:wtf: us humans wave 3 only had 1 dot of it i see
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221112471830442X
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    I would be more worried about a multiple drug-resistant tuberculosis pandemic. Most of these TB cases can be found coming from Asia, especially China and India. Tuberculosis world-wide is still a serious problem. With international travel, its potential to become a pandemic is high. No one knows how many immigrants with latent tuberculosis enter western countries every day. When immigrants enter our countries they are supposed to have evidence of the results of chest x-rays. But, chest x-rays do not tell us who has latent TB, just who has active TB. When people with latent TB get old and stressed their TB becomes active again. In my opinion, the western world will be hit hard with active TB again when the immigrants coming in today get old. God forbid the coming epidemic in the western world isn't with MDR (multiply drug-resistant) TB. Aside from its contagiousness, it costs about $250,000 to treat one case MDR TB. Our health programs will quickly become overwhelmed; and its possible treatment will be reserved for the wealthy.
     
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    i see in the news what yah mean https://pilotonline.com/news/local/...cle_8412f56e-7019-11e8-aa16-e330d091e7a2.html
     
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    Surely antibiotic resistant Tuberculosis is a never ending process, however the Avian Flu has crossed over from birds to humans and it has been proven to kill 38% of those infected. That is high and if it becomes uncontrollable the kill rate may be higher.
    To date the PPD#1 and PPD#2 are still the most effective diagnostic tools to identify TB.
    The most common medications used to treat tuberculosis include:
    • Isoniazid
    • Rifampin (Rifadin, Rimactane)
    • Ethambutol (Myambutol)
    • Pyrazinamide and
    • PAS - Para Amino Salicylate
    That doesn't preclude the use of antibiotics....
     
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    I suppose you're right about the influenza virus, but I am adamant about not letting people with latent TB into the country. I live in the Pacific Northwest. Not exactly a hub for TB, but my son was five years old when he was diagnosed with it. He was so sick for so long and no one knew why because TB was eradicated decades ago. They finally tested him and he was positive. He was put on Isoniazid for six months. Its a rough antibiotic for a five year old to take.
     
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    ah :eekeyes: more :fishing::hungry: for yah :relax:
    it looks like someones are messing with it tweeking in the lab over thier with that zj11
     
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    38% :crossbones:is a perfect infection rate scenario it wont kill off all the hosts and the others infected will be the carriers for it to help the spread along then the coverup will follow video time start 42:30
     
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    Oh, there I totally agree with you. During the turn of the 20th Century legal immigration from Europe, those found with TB were sent back to the countries of their origin. Even today, TB is more common in Europe than it is in America. Central America, South America and Africa have shown genesis of tuberculosis immune to normal methods of treatment.
     
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    @trucker

    Seems like people get offended that an infection can kill.


    Witness influenza deaths.
    How many were a lack of chicken soup, rest and see a doctor if it gets worse. My guess. Most.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany_Murphy#Death


    I know a meningitis survivor, multiple amputee who was ill with
    viral illness for a few days but, was not going to let that slow her down. etc. etc.

    Think Star Trek and transferring energy to other systems.
    The immune system is the first volunteer and is less active with exhaustion or hunger.
    Bed rest, not stay home only, bed rest is needed. Be horizontal and not vertical.
    It's so basic.
     
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    And those who hope so, should be the first. Let only the humane live, it would be a much better world.
     
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    This flu like all flu is vastly overblown hysteria blather. Same thing every flu season.
     
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    Buy food and ammo and hope for the best. It's a lot harder to catch a plague if one remains home and doesn't interact with the infected.
     
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    Paradoxical. You can't kill the inhumane while being humane yourself. You cannot kill the spiders to save the butterflies without becoming a spider yourself.
     
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    I can testify to that. :D :( Isolation has that benefit - you may live to be miserable longer.
     
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    Organic green drinks are the best. My grandaughter gave it to a person with a swollen throat, and it went away immediately. And then there's chicken soup, the Jewish penicillin.

    I think the reasons so many millions died during the flu epidemic in the first half of the last century, had to do with the lack of fresh produce when they were sick, and they weren't fed then
    intravenously.

    With the bird flu, the Koreans were fighting it with kimchi, a fermented dish similar to sauerkraut.
     
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    Yeah, this looks bad.

     
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    I do find myself wondering how much nutrition might impact people's health, including for fighting off infections, though I doubt that such a thing could account for masses of deaths due to a flu or some other nasty bug. I think that's just down to how unable a body is to resist a particular strain and that this is not really affected by how much produce people have in their diet.

    We tend to forget, I think, just how deadly the world was before vaccination and other modern medical research and treatments. People regularly died of all manner of ailments, including in these epidemics. Now it's the stuff of the third world, where conditions are sadly still too close to those our own ancestors had to endure, and of nightmares and speculation. We're practically spoiled today even in this regard.
     
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    Native strains often outcompete drug resistant strains in the wild.
     
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    Local news reported just last week that flu season is over. Now you're safe if all the viruses know that.

    But yeah, the behavior modification of avoiding crowds while an epidemic rages is a good thing to do.
     
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    It's not the amount of food one eats, it's the amount of nutrition in the foods they eat - as well as what they shouldn't be eating. If animals graze, then the vitamins and minerals will be in the milk and meat. The same with fowl and fish. It shocked me to find out that Norwegian smoked salmon were farm raise and given feed that had no nutritional value what so ever.

    As for grain, a Greek nutritionist was asked by an Israeli as to why the ancient Greeks were so smart, so she looked into it. Well it turned out they never ate wheat, it was given to the animals. They ate Zea which is also called Emmer wheat, and it is lower in gluten. It seems gluten does something to the brain which stifles creativity - so our dear companies are now adding even more to our breads. Probably to turn us all into zombies.

    When I read this, the only place I could find Emmer wheat was Germany. Now it's everywhere.
     
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    How could livestock grow successfully being fed something with absolutely no nutritional value? Those animals would die as surely and as early as a human subsisting on such a diet.

    Cool myth about the Greeks, by the way.
     
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    With TB present in the illegal alien population, you would think this would encourage Americans to seal our border. But (sadly) our political left doesn't care if illegals bring the disease into the U.S.
     
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