Conservative and NDP unity to destroy Liberals in 2019?

DennisTate · Feb 15, 2018

Do we really have any choice?

P. M. Justin Trudeau and his leading advisors are
taking Canada in a direction that demands a strong response........
neither Mr. Tommy Douglas or Mr. Jack Layton would sign the
document that P. M. Trudeau is demanding of Canada's young people:

.... (For the record.... the key to promoting this option quickly all across Canada is to show that it is relevant to the 2018 USA elections)!
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...roy-the-usa-democratic-party-for-2018.526101/
Could P. M. Justin Trudeau manage to destroy the USA Democratic Party for 2018?

DennisTate said: ↑

I am not kidding........
his political gambit to get re-elected in 2019 could backfire badly for Democrats
in the USA 2018 elections.

How?

President Trump's supporters..... (such as myself)... could forward this all over the internet.......
convince centrist Americans that the Democrats are potentially just as controlling as P. M. Justin Trudeau seems to be...............
and Americans could decide to pretty much get rid of the Democratic Party in 2018?

Then again I could be wrong?!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1296715350457368

Charles McVety Ph. D:
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Charles McVety Ph. D:

"Trudeau Bans Christian Students From Canada Summer Jobs

In a recent town hall meeting, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced his reasoning for not permitting Christians to apply for Canada Summer Jobs. Trudeau said that those who seek to restrict abortion are "not in line with society".

The Canada Summer Jobs program provides over $200 million per year to fund some 70,000 students with seasonal employment. Just before Christmas, Trudeau changed the requirements for funding which now demands that applicants and employers sign a document to attest that they support women’s reproductive rights, and the rights of gender-diverse and transgender Canadians." No bible believing Christian can sign such a document therefore the result is clear, Christians need not apply.

It appears that our Prime Minister does not recognize that each and every Canadian must be treated equally before the law and receive equal benefit including opportunity for students to be employed under the CSJ program. Section 15 of Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedom, says "1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law". Some may argue that his discrimination is not overt in that he does not explicitly name Christians; however, his descriptions are crystal clear. Christian individuals and organizations are at the forefront of fighting for person status of unborn children and protection of Children from radical sex education teaching.

One would hope that Trudeau's discrimination is temporary; however, back when Justin Trudeau was first elected as Prime Minister, over two years ago, he told local Toronto pastors that "Evangelical Christians are the worst part of Canadian society."

Hundreds of Christian organizations and thousands of Christian students have now lost funding for this year's summer jobs. Church leaders have begun to push back. If the government is allowed to blatantly deny Christian students employment, it won't be long until other Christians feel the threat of losing their jobs simply for practicing what the Bible teaches. In fact, it has been reported that this prohibition has already expanded to other programs such as the Canada Service Corps including the YMCA.

We must not allow Trudeau to deny students jobs for not swearing to support abortion and multiple genders. We can stop this if we petition God, take action by contacting our Members of Parliament, call the Prime Minister at 613-941-6900 and sign the petition at www.mcvety.ca

If not you, then who? If not now, when?" (Charles McVety)
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DennisTate · Feb 15, 2018

P. M. Justin Trudeau's top advisor is so vehement in his
opinions that for any Canadian to dare to question his support for
abortions right up to the time of birth.............. he feels that they must be Nazi's!

Pro-Life Canadians should immediately join either the NDP or the Conservative Party
and bring nationwide unity against the extremely leftist Liberals. (I left the Liberal Party in December of 2015
and joined the Conservatives in January of 2016 myself)!

https://thebridgehead.ca/2018/02/09...-who-laughed-at-peoplekind-comment-are-nazis/

Trudeau’s top advisor says those who laughed at “peoplekind” comment are Nazis

By Jonathon Van Maren

Justin Trudeau has now come out—very briefly—to say that his interruption of a young woman during a town hall meeting to correct her use of the word “mankind” to “peoplekind” was a bad joke, attempting to interrupt the global gale of mocking laughter he managed to incur. I joined in the fun with a few of my friends, attempting to get the hashtag #peoplekind trending on Twitter (which, after a few hours, it was.) From Ben Shapiro to Piers Morgan and across the political spectrum, the consensus seemed to be that Trudeau had managed to morph into a parody of himself. And if he was joking—something most people still very much doubt—the point stands, as many have already highlighted, that everyone believed Justin would definitely say something like that.

Most people in Trudeauland are ducking their heads and hoping that the whole thing will blow over. Town halls usually play very well for the prime minister—his skill at handling hecklers generally make him look pretty good—so the hammering he sustained by comparing refugees to returning ISIS fighters, telling a Canadian war vet who lost a leg in Afghanistan that veterans were asking the government for too much, and mansplaining “peoplekind” to a young woman—seems to have accomplished the opposite effect. And that has obviously gotten a few of Trudeau’s people, including his old college buddy and now jack-of-all-trades advisor Gerald Butts (known as the “shadow prime minister” in some political circles) quite bent out of shape.

Butts likes to spend a lot of time on Twitter trashing anyone who disagrees with his boss, but is also hyper-sensitive enough to block anyone who responds to anything he says, myself included. His response to the general hilarity incurred by his boss’s stupid “peoplekind” comment apparently really got his goat, because shortly, he tweeted out this: “The lesson to take from this joke being torqued by Infowars and other alt-right nazi friends of the Rebel is they’re paying attention. Game on, #TeamTrudeau.”

Got that? If you think that Trudeau’s peoplekind “joke” was stupid, funny, or just ridiculous—you’re a Nazi. Or a “alt-right nazi friend of the Rebel,” which is Ezra Levant’s online commentary outfit. So Ben Shapiro, Piers Morgan, PragerU, and thousands of others—all Nazis, because they had the guts to laugh at Gerald Butts’ buddy. Or perhaps Butts was just attempting to draw fire from Trudeau, considering the fact that he immediately managed to draw bipartisan fire to his own asinine comments, which presumably led to another round of Butt-hurt Twitter blocking.

Hilariously, it was Piers Morgan who decided he’d had enough of Butts attempting to call journalists who laughed at Trudeau Nazis, noting that: “a) I’m not a Nazi. b) It wasn’t a joke. c) If you’re one of @JustinTrudeau’s chief advisors, no wonder he’s making so many gaffes.” He then followed that up by pointing out that, “The whole world laughed at your boss & his absurdly politically correct, virtue-signalling #peoplekind nonsense. If you choose to condemn everyone who did so as being a Nazi, then I politely suggest you’re a complete & utter halfwit.” He ended by referring to Butts as “’one sandwich short of a full picnic.’ Incredible that someone so close to your Prime Minister is able to spout such dangerously inflammatory nonsense on his behalf.”

So. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau may have said that we should say “peoplekind” instead of “mankind.” But his advisor and good friend Gerald Butts says that those who found this hilarious or ridiculous are Nazis. It would appear that bad judgement is a running theme on #TeamTrudeau.
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DennisTate · Feb 15, 2018

There has to be some sort of logic in what P. M. Trudeau
has been advised to do..........
Here is the best theory I could come up with so far:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...cratic-party-for-2018.526101/#post-1068681662
Could P. M. Justin Trudeau manage to destroy the USA Democratic Party for 2018?

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I just thought of something kind of scary.......
P. M. Justin Trudeau represents a riding in Montreal, P. Q........

Anti-American sentiment is very low in English speaking Canada but in Quebec it is rather high.........

if he were to knock out all sixteen NDP federal M.P's from Quebec and replace them with Liberals........

.... he could end up as Prime Minister for another four years????!!!!

His gambit would not work in the USA where there are only two political parties normally able to elect a national leader...... but it does have potential here in Canada.... where over ninety percent of the vote is divided three ways......

His giving ten million dollars to Omar Khadr was not quite as stupid as it seemed to me to be at first..........!

http://www.ndp.ca/team

Just click on the province of Quebec to see all sixteen M.P.'s that the NDP still has there.......

......

The Liberals bounced back to forty M. P.'s from Quebec.... so perhaps their strategy is to ignore the rest of Canada.... and concentrate totally on a campaign that could be popular in Montreal and the rest of Quebec?????

https://www.liberal.ca/mp/

I am glad that he is doing what could destroy the Democrats in the USA.... but wow...... the cost does seem kind of high doesn't it????? Another four years of being taught words like "peoplekind."
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Doesn't P. M. Justin Trudeau and / or Mr. Gerald Butts realize that
if American journalists or comedians figure out what they are probably doing......
there could be a backlash that could be as serious as a USA boycott on many products made in Quebec??????

DennisTate · Feb 15, 2018

A semi-reality science fiction film...... set in February of 2016......
when I wrote the opening post of this message.........
has potential to be win - win - win - win - win - win for 99% of Canadians.........

... unless you happen to be a member of the Liberal Party who is being paid
over two hundred thousand dollars annually........
in which case you might not like my idea so much at all.

Honorable Tom Mulcair, a challenge and an offer from a Conservative.

DennisTate said: ↑

The N.S.T.U...... Nova Scotia Teachers Union
is doing a strike vote on February 20, 2018..............

.... and I have a suggestion for them........
discuss hiring Mr. Thomas Mulcair to become an actor playing the role of himself.........
in a semi-reality science fiction film series........
set during the time of his time of being national leader of the NDP...................

........

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ndp-unity-to-destroy-liberals-in-2019.526258/

Conservative and NDP unity to destroy Liberals in 2019?
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DennisTate · Feb 15, 2018

I sent the link to this discussion off to a good friend of mine and he replied......

"Apparently Trudeau's top advisor needs to be prayed for!! He has a lot of power over Trudeau"
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yes he sure does.......

"I Timothy 2:1-2 - I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.

>Proverbs 11:14 - For lack of guidance a nation falls, but victory is won through many advisers.

May we be faithful, informed and thoughtful when praying and talking to others about our politics, and as we ask for God's wisdom and righteousness to be evident in our nation's policies and leaders."
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is very likeable......
frankly I voted for Liberal M. P. Mr. Sean Fraser in the 2015 election.......
but P. M. Trudeau is listening to TOO FEW advisors.......
and they are leading him into some pretty serious political turmoil........

DennisTate · Feb 17, 2018

Shabbat Shalom Honorable Minister Kent:

I am going to look you up on Facebook and do what I can to make you and your message go viral all across Canada.

There is a plus side to P. M. Trudeau's message.......
it could be extremely useful in assisting President Donald J. Trump to
gain many extra seats in the USA 2018 elections.

It also could set the stage for a temporary truce between our Conservative Party with the NDP
in order to humiliate the Liberal Party in the 2019 election.

What P. M. Trudeau and Mr. Gerald Butts have done is very possibly made
Mr. Andrew Scheer Prime Minister of Canada for 2019 and made the federal NDP
into the official opposition putting the Liberals into third place in federal politics.

Thank you immensely for your message.

Dennis Tate

Conservative and NDP unity to destroy Liberals in 2019?

Dennis,

Ok, so I’m sure you saw the video - Justin Trudeau, interrupting a woman at one of his town halls, correcting her use of “mankind” with “peoplekind.”

His comment was so laughable that his mansplaining went viral and the Prime Minister was mocked relentlessly for it.

But what you might not yet know is that a few days later, The Prime Minister’s top advisor, Gerald Butts, tweeted what boiled down to the people mocking this were connected to Nazis.

Seriously.

Gerald Butts is one of the most powerful staff members in the Prime Minister’s Office; the PM even said that any statement by Mr. Butts could be considered his own.

So I simply asked Mr. Trudeau to disassociate himself from this outrageous slur and apologize.

But, he refused to condemn it.

Clearly, people who mocked the Prime Minister’s “peoplekind” comment are not Nazis, and any comparison of the sort is highly offensive to the survivors of the Holocaust!

The Nazis killed six million Jews in the holocaust, and any comparisons are unacceptable.

It is deeply troubling that at the very top of Mr. Trudeau’s own office, this is the knee-jerk reaction to reasonable criticisms of this Prime Minister.

.....

Sincerely,

Peter Kent
MP, Thornhill

http://www.peterkent.ca/home
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DennisTate · Feb 17, 2018

I am very glad to have found another explanation for what P. M. Justin Trudeau is attempting to do.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/pete...canada-summer-jobs-program/10159841961610545/

Trudeau Liberals hijack the Canada Summer Jobs Program

PETER KENT·FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2018

Since, my election as the Member of Parliament for Thornhill, I’ve been honoured to support the Canada Summer Jobs Program. The Program has enabled religious and cultural organizations and small businesses to provide compensated summer work experience to young men and women and, to enable these organizations to provide broader services to Thornhillers in their summer operations.
But this year, Justin Trudeau introduced a sweeping values test for Canadians applying for the Canada Summer Jobs program.

This policy isn’t about the activities or services an organization is engaged in, the policy is about targeting the personal beliefs of the individuals who run those organizations.

The deadline for the Canada Summer Jobs program passed on February 2nd, with the government refusing to remove this offensive and unacceptable new condition. It’s now clear that other government services may be subjected to the same values test.
Conservatives believe that all Canadians should be treated equally by their government, regardless of their faith or conscience. We will defend the right of all Canadians of faith to hold and express their deeply-held beliefs and values.

The right to freedom of belief and opinion is guaranteed by Canada’s Charter of Rights and Freedoms and Canadians should be very concerned that the Government of Canada is basing funding decisions on whether or not you hold a certain belief.

Under Justin Trudeau’s values test, if you don’t agree with the ideological positions of the Liberal Party, your organization will no longer be eligible to receive funding for a summer student.

Justin Trudeau’s values test has no place in a tolerant, multicultural society such as Canada.

The Prime Minister talks a lot about respecting diversity, but his actions tell a very different story.

Conservatives are concerned that Trudeau will apply his values test to Canadians receiving other services, including organizations that receive charitable status from the Canada Revenue Agency. It makes one wonder, was Bombardier forced sign Justin Trudeau’s values test before the company received hundreds of millions in taxpayer support?

Conservatives are also concerned for the students who won’t find work as a result of this decision. Individuals who hold private convictions may, for example, no longer be able to help care for the disabled, refugees, or provide day camp for children in need.
If you wish to convey your disapproval of the Trudeau Liberals’ heavy-handed values test, please fill out the petition being taken by my colleague, Kelly Block MP.
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zoom_copter66 · Mar 9, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

Do we really have any choice?

P. M. Justin Trudeau and his leading advisors are
taking Canada in a direction that demands a strong response........
neither Mr. Tommy Douglas or Mr. Jack Layton would sign the
document that P. M. Trudeau is demanding of Canada's young people:

.... (For the record.... the key to promoting this option quickly all across Canada is to show that it is relevant to the 2018 USA elections)!
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...roy-the-usa-democratic-party-for-2018.526101/
Could P. M. Justin Trudeau manage to destroy the USA Democratic Party for 2018?

Charles McVety Ph. D:
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Trudeau is starting to self implode...his numbers are already behind the conservatives. Hopefully if the tories play their cards right...zoolander can be reduced to at least a minority if not opposition.

DennisTate · Mar 10, 2018

zoom_copter66 said: ↑

Trudeau is starting to self implode...his numbers are already behind the conservatives. Hopefully if the tories play their cards right...zoolander can be reduced to at least a minority if not opposition.
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Yes..... Andrew Scheer is impressive...............
I would breathe a massive sigh of relief if he is elected Prime Minister of Canada in 2019......

https://www.conservative.ca/andrew-scheer/

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1870640219636388

Andrew Scheer is the Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada.

He was first elected Member of Parliament for Regina-Qu’Appelle in 2004 by defeating the longest-serving member of the House of Commons.

Re-elected four more times, he held the position of Speaker of the House of Commons from 2011 to 2015, becoming the youngest Speaker in Canadian history!

After the 2015 election, Andrew served as the Official Opposition House Leader before successfully seeking the Conservative leadership.

Andrew studied History and Politics at the University of Ottawa and the University of Regina. He passed the Canadian Accredited Insurance Broker program and began his working career in the insurance industry in Regina.

As a father of five, Andrew has been known all his life for being true to his conservative principles in politics and out.
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zoom_copter66 · Mar 10, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

Yes..... Andrew Scheer is impressive...............
I would breathe a massive sigh of relief if he is elected Prime Minister of Canada in 2019......

https://www.conservative.ca/andrew-scheer/

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1870640219636388
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Yes...he's good. I'm wondering if he can sell to Quebec though, he Sask based, Regina. The numbers polled now are just a snapshot, there's still a year and half to go, anything and everything can change between now &then.

DennisTate · May 2, 2018

zoom_copter66 said: ↑

Yes...he's good. I'm wondering if he can sell to Quebec though, he Sask based, Regina. The numbers polled now are just a snapshot, there's still a year and half to go, anything and everything can change between now &then.
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P. M. Justin Trudeau has set Mr. Andrew Scheer up
in a way that has astonishing potential.........
but will he capitalize on the opportunity?

Does Justin Trudeau apologise too much?

DennisTate said: ↑

I would like to see P. M. Justin Trudeau apologize to the province of Newfoundland and
Labrador....... for an injustice that began in 1972 (or 1974), and will not end until 2041.

I would like to see him take the angle that his father made an error.... but
that error was made as part of a daring and desperate gambit to keep Quebec within
Canada....... and obviously what P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau did was successful.

I would like to see P. M. Justin Trudeau simply borrow...... whatever sum of Canadian dollars
that should have went to Newfoundland - Labrador since 1972 at ZERO percent interest.......
and pay that province that sum of money........ in order to set a precedent of going back to
the vastly better central banking system set up by P. M. Mackenzie King in 1940 that was
applied until 1974.

P. M. Justin Trudeau is unlikely to do something this risky unless a great
deal of pressure is put on him through a temporary alliance between
Canada's Conservatives with the NDP.

A statement made by the late Jack Layton could lay the foundation
for that proposed NDP and Conservative cooperation:

"We never should have privatized our debt and turned it over to the
private banks, we should have kept it in the hands of the Bank of Canada,
at least a major part of it, because then we would have been paying
interest back to ourselves." (NDP Leader Jack Layton)
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Conservative and NDP unity to destroy Liberals in 2019?

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Will Mr. Andrew Scheer give some credit to the late Jack Layton?

I am almost certain that it was economist Steve Keen who stated in an interview about a decade ago that P. M. Stephen Harper was saving Canadian taxpayers about thirty billion dollars annually....... .for every one percentage point that he was keeping the Bank of Canada rate lower by........... through his wise fiscal policies.

Technically... it is impossible to know for certain if P. M. Harpers' decisions may have actually kept the prime rate lower by two percent... .which would have saved Canadian taxpayers around sixty billion dollars in interest payments annually.

DennisTate · Jun 20, 2018

zoom_copter66 said: ↑

Yes...he's good. I'm wondering if he can sell to Quebec though, he Sask based, Regina. The numbers polled now are just a snapshot, there's still a year and half to go, anything and everything can change between now &then.
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So true......

M. P. Candice Bergen is going to get Mr. Andrew Scheer a lot of votes if she will continue to make videos
like this one that I liked so much that I posted it to my Facebook wall:

My humble apologies.... but in the 2015 election I actually voted Liberal. Mr. Justin Trudeau was also my #2 choice when we selected a national leader. I left the Liberal Party only a few months after they were given a majority government though partly to attempt to encourage Mr. Peter MacKay to get back into politics....... and partly because I know that majority governments tend to create certain rather serious problems....... such as:
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1694470857332748

zoom_copter66 · Jun 20, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

So true......

M. P. Candice Bergen is going to get Mr. Andrew Scheer a lot of votes if she will continue to make videos
like this one that I liked so much that I posted it to my Facebook wall:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1694470857332748
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yes....I saw her speak earlier....great video.

I was encouraged to see the Quebec riding go so heavy for the Tories, despite Trudeaus $$$ promises....together with Doug Ford winning in Ontario, Alberta will go back blue again next spring, SK has the right leaning Sask Party, MB has a new tory govt,.....that's more than 3/4 of Canadas population right leaning provincially.....hopefully spills over to Scheer, federally!!

DennisTate · Jun 23, 2018

zoom_copter66 said: ↑

yes....I saw her speak earlier....great video.

I was encouraged to see the Quebec riding go so heavy for the Tories, despite Trudeaus $$$ promises....together with Doug Ford winning in Ontario, Alberta will go back blue again next spring, SK has the right leaning Sask Party, MB has a new tory govt,.....that's more than 3/4 of Canadas population right leaning provincially.....hopefully spills over to Scheer, federally!!
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What P. M. Trudeau is doing sure seems to fit with:

DennisTate · Jul 16, 2018

zoom_copter66 said: ↑

Trudeau is starting to self implode...his numbers are already behind the conservatives. Hopefully if the tories play their cards right...zoolander can be reduced to at least a minority if not opposition.
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Yes..... even some writers at the CBC and BBC think his policy is somewhat extreme.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/summer-jobs-program-1.4491602

Trudeau is asking religious Canadians to betray their conscience for federal funding
The Liberals have applied an ideological purity test to their applications for summer job grants

Youth summer jobs

It sounds innocuous enough: Trudeau's Liberals have made changes to the youth summer jobs program, which provides grant money to various employers to hire students. The changes, announced in December, got little media attention until now.

Under the new rules, applicants must agree — by marking a box on an electronic form — that they respect charter rights, including "women's rights and women's reproductive rights." The office of the employment minister has said without the confirmation, an organization will not receive funding.

Religious organizations — churches, youth camps, aid groups and so forth — that hire students to assist them over the summer are frustrated. That's because many, especially conservative Protestant and Catholic organizations, believe a child in the womb is as valuable as a child born, and they see abortion as immoral. To give assent to abortion, even via a check mark on a government form, betrays their values and conscience.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42736530

A new clause in the grant application for the Canada Summer Jobs programme and the Youth Service Corps demands that applicants check a box that says:

"My organisation's core mandate respect individual human rights in Canada… these include reproductive rights and the rights to be free from discrimination on the basis of sex, religion, race, national or ethnic origin, colour, mental or physical disability or sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression."

The jobs programme funds some 70,000 summer jobs for youths between the ages of 15-30.

The clause was added after the government was forced to pay a court settlement to three anti-abortion groups after it denied them funding in 2017.

Is it a surprise?
Mr Trudeau has made it no secret that he adamantly supports reproductive rights.

When he first became leader of the Liberal Party in 2014, he banned anti-abortion candidates from running for office and insisted that all party members vote in favour of pro-choice.
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zoom_copter66 · Jul 16, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

Yes..... even some writers at the CBC and BBC think his policy is somewhat extreme.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/summer-jobs-program-1.4491602

Trudeau is asking religious Canadians to betray their conscience for federal funding
The Liberals have applied an ideological purity test to their applications for summer job grants

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42736530
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Yeah, if you dont support abortions, or against them in any way, no summer job for you.

I hope the SOB is gone in 2019, afaic, the NAFTA negotiations are/were a disaster, didn't help by Tinkerbell opening his yap behind Trump's back either.

Moi621 · Aug 2, 2018

@DennisTate

Are the peoples sick of Trudeau yet?

This last presidential election has elements of People rebelling.
On the GOP side, Trumps victory over Party regulars.
On the Democratic side, it took a deeply, multi-layered corruption that denied the people, Bernie.
Neither Trump not Bernie were favored by their Party's organization. Just the people.
And only Bernie could have beat Trump.

Maybe in YOUR system of gov't, the people cannot demonstrate power over the party's bosses as in and the primary system or nomination.
Do tell.

Moi
Watcher

DennisTate · Aug 2, 2018

Moi621 said: ↑

@DennisTate

Are the peoples sick of Trudeau yet?

This last presidential election has elements of People rebelling.
On the GOP side, Trumps victory over Party regulars.
On the Democratic side, it took a deeply, multi-layered corruption that denied the people, Bernie.
Neither Trump not Bernie were favored by their Party's organization. Just the people.
And only Bernie could have beat Trump.

Maybe in YOUR system of gov't, the people cannot demonstrate power over the party's bosses as in and the primary system or nomination.
Do tell.

Moi
Watcher
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Our situation up here in Canada is somewhat more complicated because we have a third major party, (NDP), that also has the potential to end up either in a position of the ability to choose a Prime Minister through coalition government..... or perhaps even
send one of theirs into the office of Prime Minister.

Even the Bloc Quebecois that is only in Quebec can have a surprising amount of influence in our system.

So far the office of Prime Minister has been either a Liberal or a Conservative for all of my 59 years......
but yes.... .I do believe that the Honeymoon with P. M. Justin Trudeau is over.......
and I am very doubtful that he will be re-elected in 2019....... although he might maintain enough votes to still be P. M. if a sufficient number of NDP candidates or Bloc Quebec are elected...... who prefer him over Mr. Andrew Scheer.

I believe that Canadians may be so tired of being forced into the extreme political correctness of Montreal, Quebec society and culture..... that hopefully.... they will elect Mr. Andrew Scheer the leader of Canada's Conservative Party.

Mr. Scheer would be able to get along extremely well with President Trump's administration......

http://www.andrewmp.ca/en/

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1870640219636388

Moi621 · Aug 2, 2018

But the party decides who their leader is and thus who they would make PM.
The people can't place a new executive in office who isn't the Party's favorite,
unlike the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Another case of Freedom Retarded in eh

DennisTate · Aug 2, 2018

zoom_copter66 said: ↑

Yeah, if you dont support abortions, or against them in any way, no summer job for you.

I hope the SOB is gone in 2019, afaic, the NAFTA negotiations are/were a disaster, didn't help by Tinkerbell opening his yap behind Trump's back either.
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The province of Quebec is extremely anti-American............
in my opinion it was terribly irresponsible for P. M. Trudeau to attempt to please the people of Quebec by
attempt to appear tough on President Trump!

What in the world is he thinking?

He was not worried about the average working Canadian that is for sure!

https://business.financialpost.com/...aus-pushed-around-comment-we-just-shook-hands
Trudeau’s pushback at G7 will cost Canadians ‘a lot of money,' Trump warns

Those comments came after Trudeau’s closing news conference at the G7 summit in Quebec on Saturday, when the prime minister said he had pushed back against the Trump administration’s tariffs on steel and aluminum.
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DennisTate · Aug 2, 2018

Moi621 said: ↑

But the party decides who their leader is and thus who they would make PM.
The people can't place a new executive in office who isn't the Party's favorite,
unlike the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Another case of Freedom Retarded in eh
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I think that Bernie actually had more support among the average Democrats than Hillary had........
but the leadership of the DNC knew how to get around that fact.

Moi621 · Aug 2, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

I think that Bernie actually had more support among the average Democrats than Hillary had........
but the leadership of the DNC knew how to get around that fact.
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Can s Trump their party's nomination contrary to the wishes of Party bosses?

Unless a party is corrupted, s can

zoom_copter66 · Aug 5, 2018

DennisTate said: ↑

The province of Quebec is extremely anti-American............
in my opinion it was terribly irresponsible for P. M. Trudeau to attempt to please the people of Quebec by
attempt to appear tough on President Trump!

What in the world is he thinking?

He was not worried about the average working Canadian that is for sure!

https://business.financialpost.com/...aus-pushed-around-comment-we-just-shook-hands
Trudeau’s pushback at G7 will cost Canadians ‘a lot of money,' Trump warns
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Quebec is anti- "everything" that does not directly serve their interests....rest of Canada be damned.

And by him opening his gab and stating "we wont be pushed around"...was rather over the top, considering Trump was going to let the 5 yr clause slide in regards to NAFTA.

hes lost support on the immigration issue to Scheer48%- Trudeau 35%....im not even worried about the NDP....im hoping theyre decimated next election and go the way of the Bloc Quebecois....extinction,Afaic.

if these #s hold til next 10/2019...itll be a shitty night for the Libs.)

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Quebec is anti- "everything" that does not directly serve their interests....rest of Canada be damned.

And by him opening his gab and stating "we wont be pushed around"...was rather over the top, considering Trump was going to let the 5 yr clause slide in regards to NAFTA.

hes lost support on the immigration issue to Scheer48%- Trudeau 35%....im not even worried about the NDP....im hoping theyre decimated next election and go the way of the Bloc Quebecois....extinction,Afaic.

if these #s hold til next 10/2019...itll be a shitty night for the Libs.)
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Wow....... P. M. Trudeau may actually be sending some people who may lean N.D.P. in our direction by making such a total mess of Canadian - Saudi Arabian relations...............
This is an awesome explanation of what happened that I am listening to for the second time now:

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Yes...he's good. I'm wondering if he can sell to Quebec though, he Sask based, Regina. The numbers polled now are just a snapshot, there's still a year and half to go, anything and everything can change between now &then.
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My suggestion to the eleven Conservative M.P's in Quebec would be for them to join with Mr. Maxime Bernier which would make their re-election a whole lot easier.

If no Conservative party candidate went up against them in 2019 they would almost certainly be re-elected.

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