17-year-old Antwon Rose was fleeing and unarmed when police in East Pittsburgh shot him

Only the black ones?

 

More so than the white ones.

 

Sorry, but if you think this is ok and you use the justification that cops get to make a judgment about whether or not to use deadly force based on nothing more than their feelings, then you’re essentially saying cops get to kill whoever they want.

The amount of power you’re willing to hand to the police is horrifying. Literally the power over life and death handed to a guy, a flawed human being like the rest of us, to mete out as he sees fit. Our justice system is so complex and slow moving because the goal is to be as certain as possible that a suspect is guilty before delivering a sentence upon him. You’re just pissing on all of that and handing the reins of justice over to individual officers who make snap decisions based sometimes on solid reasoning, but just as often on adrenaline, prejudice and fear.

What strikes me the most is that I have yet to see a a thread on these forums about any police shooting that doesn’t have the same old tired group of people defend the police actions at any cost and against all logic and sense of fairness.

Do you people really think the police are infallible or do you just not care when people get shot to death?

 

I've seen police defended but I haven't yet seen them attacked with logic and a sense of fairness. Lot of lynch mobs though.

 

When was he convicted of a felony?

 

Save the right wing, racist propaganda for your alt right buddies.

 

Really, are you naïve or just ****ing stu………..nevermind. Nobody is saying they are not guilty of the crimes they commit, I am talking about the easy access to the guns genius.

 

Sooooooo.....because they have easy access to them means that black kids should buy them and use them in crimes? I don't get your argument maybe I am stu....

 

You don't want to get it, do you. It's kind of like a kid in the hood working at the corner store and making $150 a week or working for the local drug dealer and making $1K a week. You starting to get the picture now, nobody is saying it's right I am talking about the reality of the situation. How much do you think crime would drop in Chicago or any other major city if the guns and drugs went away.

 

Complete bullcrap:

 

Why do you still keeping posting this bogus bullshit. Whites account for 85% of whites that are killed.

 

Learn to read a chart. Der...speaking of "bogus bullshit". Hint: It isn't %'s. Hint #2: "per 100,000 people".

Go to the 2013 FBI UCR and read the raw numbers on the table listed.

Der...umm...duh...

And the CROSS RACIAL MURDER NUMBERS are the REAL EYE-OPENERS...

 

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2014.xls

 

Yeah, which CONFIRMS the above bar graph. And? Was there a point to your post?
Blacks murder whites in FAR GREATER NUMBERS, as well as AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE, than do white to blacks.

We know.

 

You're moving the argument into a more deep seated cultural issue that I don't completely disagree with you about. But what you have to understand is these young black men have a choice that they can make and they consistently make the wrong ones. Most young drug dealers do not make 1k a week.

The majority of them could make more working hard at wal-mart and climbing up the ladder. AGM's make close to 60k a year, have stock options and benefits.

What it seems like you're trying to do is blame a series of bad choices this individual made, on his own accord, on someone else. We don't live in Nazi Germany, we have tremendous income mobility if you're willing to work for it.

 

When the facts don't support you, go to name calling and obscenity.
Meanwhile, consider
"According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 12.3% of the U.S. population is black, and 12.5% is Hispanic. Gallup Poll results from March 26-28, however, show that slightly less than one in 10 Americans can accurately identify that the population of either blacks or Hispanics in this country falls between 10% and 14%."



Who kills who or whom? ? by race. Or is it whom kills . .

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2015.xls

FBI Stats for 2015

Sorry I cannot transfer Expanded Homicide Data Table 6 linked above
Of 3,167 White people killed, 2,574 White killer 81% , 500 Black killer 15%
Of 2,664 Black people killed, 229 White killer 8.5% , 2,380 Black killer. 89%

I calculated percents but, some data is not uploads like the killer being
neither White nor Black. So they don't add to 100%
Check out the Link
Racially, White people are killed sort of proportionate to the general population, no selectivity.
Not so Black people.

What is obvious is Black people need to appreciate, BLM.
Stop taking it out on White people.


I know, I know.
More Right Wing manure.
Or Blame Whitey.



Moi
Recovered Liberal
If any liberal can truly be termed, recovered.

 

I read earlier this car matched the description of one which fled a recent shooting. What a dumb thing to do, run after bieng stopped by police.

 

Take you utter conjecture and baseless postulations elsewhere. Yea they just happened to have a clip for the guns found in the car. Geez

 

Well they don't have a tractor beam like on Star Trek so what you would suggest?

 

He could out run them and gain distance making his apprehension more difficullt. more dangerous if not impossible. When you run and they have probable cause as they clearly did here you endanger yourself. He was in a car that had been involved in a shooting, an attempted murder, on a PUBLIC STREET, probable cause, and then the suspect attempt to evade capture, consciousness of guilt. The police do not let such a suspect escape. And then we find the guns in the car and an empty clip in his pocket.

I wouldn't be sticking my head out to far defending this guy it don't look good for him.

 

It is not a requirement that you be a track star and can outrun a 17 year old. How about it you are a suspect you don't run and try to evade capture?

 

Cops have every reason to be suspicious of black teens. They commit a HUGELY disproportionate amount of crime and those living in those urban areas likely to be armed and dangerous li

 

Thanks for showing that whites are less likely to resist arrest and attempt to flea putting themselves endanger of lethal force being used against them. Or that whites don't go out on a public street and point a weapon at other people and then when the police pull up point it at them. Or don't reach in your pockets, or refuse to raise your hands or any number of things people do to get themselves shot during a police apprehension.

 

He was also in a car that had just been involved in a shooting and attempted murder on a public street endangering the community and attempt to flee from apprehension and then two automatic pistols were found in the car and an empty clip in his pocket. And yes fleeing an arrest attempt is called consciousness of guilt.

Consciousness of Guilt is both a concept and a type of circumstantial evidence used in criminal trials by prosecutors. It refers to a powerful and highly incriminating inference that a judge or jury may draw from the statements or conduct of a defendant (accused) after a crime has been committed suggesting that the defendant knows he or she is guilty of the charged crime. In other words, the defendant's conduct after the crime is circumstantial (indirect) evidence that the defendant intended to commit the crime, or, in fact, committed the crime. Some of the most common types of consciousness of guilt are:

• Fleeing from the crime scene or jurisdiction

https://www.lacriminaldefenseattorney.com/Legal-Dictionary/C/Consciousness-of-Guilt.aspx

That only added to the probable cause already established by the car.

 

What do you think we do with a jury in a capital murder trial. What do you think we do in states where the judge does the sentencing in a capital murder? And yes police have a duty to protect us from violent criminals who will engage in murder on a public street with reckless disregard of the citizens.