Abolishment of ICE is not a partisan issue

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Where did I say criminals shouldn’t be prosecuted? That is your interpretation, not mine.
     
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    commies abhor our evil white forebears and the awful, oppressive nation they founded, but are currently arguing the merits of extending the rights and liberties they fought and died to secure for posterity
    to every swinging dick on the planet,
    no questions asked.
     
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    I'm all for this IF there is a Constitutional Amendment limited application of the Constitution, all of our laws and government resources and all government funded facilities and ending birthright citizenship simply for being born here and these all apply only to native born or naturalized citizens and ban those coming into the nation illegally from ever applying for or being granted citizenship.

    NO access to medical care funded by any government level, no education, no right to any protections of the US Constitution, no right to work this could be restricted to citizens and naturalized citizens only and crack down on employers etc.

    You do this we wouldn't need an ICE!
     
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    Hahahahahah. Yes. Yes it is.
     
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    Makes my winter drive easier though...
     
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    There are about 20,000 ICE agents. So, we are going to fire all of them and create a whole new organization. How long before we get a whole new group up and running? Optimistically five years by the time you recruit and train them. In the meantime, we get overrun.

    If they need a reorganization or name change or both. Fine.
     
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    I beg to differ. It is the new "litmus test" the left is going to apply to every Democrat who runs for election or reelection.

    In effect, it is advocating for open borders. If a person can sneak in, and there is no ICE, they can stay in forever.

    In all the hysteria over ICE in the past few weeks, I haven't heard one single allegation that ICE is breaking the law. Balto, when you don't like the law, you work to change the law. You don't blame law enforcement.
     
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    Please stop peeing in the thought pool! The stench of fake logic is overwhelming and staining the vulnerable minds of the feeble people already pushing the idea that we should surrender the nation to the illegals sneaking in the back door.
     
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    Forum rules prevent me from expressing how f*****g r******d this is. ICE is doing what it was told to do by Congressional law and presidential order. On the scale of stupid political opinions, this ranks right up there with doing away with leash laws for dogs and allowing kids to street race through downtown.
     
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    Hey I'm not arguing, I'm encouraging. I want all Democrats to run on abolishing ICE this fall. I'm with ya buddy!
     
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    To Republican Jesus, PS: Please ad this list to the one Democrats should run on this fall.

    In Donald's name...
     
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    Abolishment of ICE can be classified in any way possible, even as a non-partisan issue. But the vast majority are dead set against it and that will come out in the vote.
     
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    First off, my understanding is it isn't ICE doing the separating. ICE is a law enforcement agency. They only hook 'em, they don't book 'em. Secondly, even if they were, how is this any different than separating families who steal cars?
    Seek asylum through the legal means and you won't have a problem.

    I've been to Israel when they were having an uptick of terrorists attacks if that counts.
    Not unless they have reasonable suspicion in the course of their duties.

    Evidence?

    Exactly what is wrong with profiling especially if all they're doing is asking questions?
    Thanks for your opinion.
     
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    Ironically, while you aimed to describe this toward Democrats, you hit it in the head describing Republicans.
     
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    My plan to "Bring The War Home" seems to be working. It won't be long before internecine affairs consume the US and I get medals from every other nation.

    Bwahaha!

    Signed, Georgie Boy Soros.

     
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    Abolishing ICE is just ignorant.
     
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    Can you explain exactly how it is that abolishing a law enforcement agency is not disadvantaging law enforcement?
     
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    Take your open borders, lawless free-for-all message to the people. If that's what they want, they will vote for it. Don't lie about it to get elected like Gillibrand has a history of doing.
     
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    Abolishment of ICE is not a partisan issue

    It is only a partisan issue. It is only the democrat party that doesn't want law enforcement interrupting the constant importation of future democrat voters. Abolishing ICE is not rooted in law. It is not rooted in common sense. It is rooted only in partisanship. The OP has blinders.
     
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    Profiling and stereotyping are two wonderful things that increase efficiency in nature and in human beings discriminating about who they let into their lives, and in completing their jobs and staying employed.

    You don't consider loaning money to someone with no credit or bad credit. You leave them to their own problems and do not get involved.

    You don't give a spare room to somebody who just got out of prison for a violent crime because you already know they are rotten to the core and are likely to harm you.

    Failure breeds failure in human beings and that's just too damn bad; you got to worry about solving your own problems and staying safe.

    You keep your nose clean and your head above water, play by the rules, and beyond that you owe the world nothing.

    For charity give to the Salvation Army, the Red Cross, St. Vincent de Paul Society, etc. Give sacrificially out of your own pocket.
     
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    Your post, verbatim: Deportation should be avoided as much as possible, and put a limit on how many ICE can deport.
     
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    Bipartisan.

    "In court filings, lawyers for the detention facility have denied all the allegations of physical abuse. The incidents described in the lawsuit occurred from 2015 to 2018, during both the Obama and Trump administrations."
     

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