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U.S. warships pass through Taiwan Strait amid heightened tensions with Beijing

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  1. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    alrighty whats going on here :confuse: is this normal or a slap back at china for the tariffs fight or because china was playing war games off its coast a month ago , and we want to send a message to china back off!
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...hips-pass-through-taiwan-strait-idUSKBN1JX0QY
     
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    Normal stuff.

    China, against all International laws, is attempting to claim territorial waters and control in the South China Sea.

    The Taiwan Strait is 130km wide at it's narrowest point, which allows ships to pass well beyond globally recognized territorial limits.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ok so i sleep better:sleepy: at night now ,you convinced me totally:please::hiding:
     
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    You can react to news any way you wish. I just stated the facts regarding the Taiwan Straight.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    video time 1:00 for the first time last week china has equip its destroyers with
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    heres the 2 destroyers china launched this week [​IMG]
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its normal, ship pass through that area during obama era, japan do it, so does others. China only monitor it, just like when chinese warship transit near US water, we monitor them too.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ok but this is a show of force now because obama was more of a blow hard if that , but chinas ships are more likely spy surveillance ships
     
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    show of force of what? sail few ship via the strait? even vietnam done that before, so did japan, so does many countries. They dont care. you can sail as many ship in ScS or around taiwan. it will just give china more excuses to build more ships, and put more weapon in ScS.

    The taiwan strait is international waterway, they are not gonna stop that. just like china sail through near US water that we indicate is for international use.
     
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    But the artificial islands they are building will cause trouble.
    https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/chinas-artificial-islands-news-rumors/
     
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    The Taiwan Strait is not the area where China has built the illegal artificial islands. The Taiwan Strait separates the nation of Taiwan from the Chinese mainland and lie about 700-800 miles north the disputed are in the South China Sea.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Agreed.

    Turning a tidal reef into an island, and then unilaterally declaring it sovereign defensible land is provocative and threatening. Further declaring all oil and other energy deposits within these new territories part of China exacerbates the problem. Add in China's refusal to accept Taiwan as a sovereign Nation, and the whole region is rather tense.

    Allowing that annexation to take place without response would be a big mistake. In the end, it's sabre rattling, as I don't believe China and the US are interested in mutual annihilation.
     
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    This is plain old Imperialism.
     
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    Nonsense. Every nation has the right to sail the seas.
     
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    So China can claim the Taiwan Straights and the Sth China sea as its
    own and that's NOT imperialism?
    It's no different to modern Russian imperialism.
    And the old Marxist imperialism.
     
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    The US sailing its warships in international waters is not imperialism.
     
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    Not what I meant, to the contrary - it's China assuming international waters
    are its own. And that's incredibly dangerous. It reminds me of Japan in the
    1930 and 1940's.
     
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    theirs a BIG difference from claiming and just sailing~ through
     
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    Ah so...gotcha :)
     
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    Hey trucker, do you realize what you wrote? Imagine a Chinese fleet near our coast and threatening us continuously, and when our government has games to show we will defend our shores, China sends even more ships to get us to back off. To back off what, protecting one's own shores? :roll:
     
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    vietnam/phillippine did the same. the only difference are the scale of operation. in a sense this is same US did in caribbean in early 20th century, its call monroe doctrine
     
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    that dam Taiwan can be our trip wire to :eek:WW#3
     
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    Which is "plain old imperialism"?

    Sailing ships through an international straight? Or creating artificial islands to expand national territory?
     
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    Different time, different World.
     
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