American hunter's images of her black giraffe 'trophy kill' spark outrage

i dont eat whoppers with cheese.

i said so numerous times.

stop trolling

 

i bet you're not Gay, a woman or a Muslim or someone who smokes marijuana.

how lucky for you.

 

So - you have an explanation for this post then?

 

LOL!!!!

that was a tongue & cheek thread to annoy someone.



today, in 2018, I do not eat cheeseburgers

i have not had one in probably 10 years or more

 

Oh, sure - completely believable.

 

Trap them and release them if you don't want to eat them.

 

So you want it like how the giraffe was killed? Free range.. but also want anyone harvesting free range in jail? Liberal logic at it's finest..

 

Right on all counts; though I believe in the legalization of marijuana. In the end, your comment is utterly irrelevant. My wife is a woman, and she has no more interest in city living than I do. Like me, she's a political independent and has some views that would be seen as more left-of-center... but the current crop of liberal snowflakes with their childish tantrums genuinely piss her off.

 

So far, you can't even make up ANYTHING you have ever done for any animal nor a single thing YOU have done - in your entire life - to try to protect any endangered species.

But, then, you live in the city that is among THE most liberal and that MOST hates animals. Of the few that can even survive in your concrete world - pigeons and starlings (some call the grackles) - the mere thought that one might poop on them or their car leads to mass poisoning slaughters of the little wildlife than can survive, with animal control to pick up strays to take them to kill shelters.

If urban liberals had their way, the only wild mammals in Florida would be a billion wild hogs and feral cats would be causing more devastation to birds and small mammals - many already pushed to the verge of extinction over the view of let nature kill off the weak.

Most Americans do live in urban cities and suburbs - something you know but pretend is not true.

For MOST big wild animals - whether in the USA, Africa or anywhere else in the world, their only chance of avoiding extinction is in private and commercial preserves - which liberals incessantly try to shut down. Your view of "natural predators" is truly naive, but then to you supporting animal rights is watching an National Geography nature show while wolfing down bacon cheeseburgers. Attempts to allow natural predators to control animal population has repeatedly been dismal failures because big predators are extremely territorial and kill each other. NOR is "natural predators" even possible anymore for the THOUSANDS of invasive species that have no natural predators or are even lethal (poisonous) to indigenous natural predators.

Your message, like the views of nearly all urban liberals is based upon true ignorance. Just the federal government has 640 MILLION acres of land, not counting land owned by local, county and state governments. Allowing nature to do it's thing has literally lead to extinctions - true extinction. Banning selective trophy hunting of the Florida panther - meaning killing off excessive males - literally resulted in the extinction of the Florida panther. They do not exist. Panthers in FLorida now are from other areas - and they can not survive BECAUSE OF HOW NATURE WORKS. Male panthers each claim a HUGE territory - will kill any other male and will kill any offspring not their own.

If liberals were in charge they would be no endangered species because 95% of all species higher than insects would already be extinct. To urban liberals, nature is cute YouTube videos of kittens and Nature shows of places thousands of miles away - as you rant against what they do to try to save their animals - something American liberals DON'T do.

Most urban liberals don't actually give a damn about natural animals because they have no relevancy to their lives whatsoever. Natural animals only have relevancy and are only endearing to people who live in regions where those animals exist. That's why I could continue to write on and on all we do personally at our time and expense we do for animals, while you can't name one damn thing you have ever done nor have any intention of ever doing in your life for any wild animal.

But for extremely expensive trophy hunts in Africa, most big mammals will become extinct, unless some remain on private land elsewhere - something liberals always try to outlaw.

 

Don’t Feed Wildlife In NYC, City Reminds Public

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/11/07/dont-feed-wildlife-in-nyc/

That is how NYC liberal Democrats see wildlife. Starve them all to death or use starvation to drive them out of the city - any and all wildlife. No exceptions.

This was the attitude of Obama's liberal urban "animals rights" Feds and the urban liberals who tried to intervene here - making it a federal felony to not let manatees starve to death - claiming this helps them, while at the same time spending a million dollars to fly a manatee out of cold water to here as a PR stunt. This outraged local true animal rights environmentalists as that practice if made common would lead to manatees literally incapable of survival without such extreme actions - too costly for the government to maintain. A manatee that does not have the instinct to head south in time should NOT have offspring. But a temporary food shortage should be met - until more food sources can be created and planted.

That is ALL animal rights activity by most urban liberals are: ignorant, cheesy, counterproductive and extremely wasteful publicity stunts.

The animal rights liberals literally from the East Coast along with team Obama and their laws claiming it would protect the manatees were becoming so counter productive a federal court finally ordered it stopped - and it was locals who contributed all the legal fees money to do it. It was absurd. The animal rights East Coast Liberals and Obama Feds insisted this area could only support less than 400 manatees - for which they must be treated as endangered as this is a key birthing area. However, aerial photography showed over 5,000 manatees just here alone.

How did they try to explain this? Blame it on us local people. For DECADES the people here have treated manatees with true admiration and love - plus they are profitable as a huge tourist attraction. People come from all over the world specifically to here to swim with OUR manatees.

So... this was the predictable and bizarre logic of the East Coast and Democrat liberals animal rights people: That the 5,000 manatees MUST be starved down or otherwise culled down to less than 400 - but then with the numbers down that low then of course they must be considered an endangered species strictly monitors and controlled. Literally, claiming humans must NOT be allowed to interact with manatees - though it is humans who prevented their extinction - is morally wrong. Therefore, manatees must be pushed to an extinction level and the massive amounts of federal money and - of course - at least 100 new federal jobs be created - to protect the few allowed to survive.

That is the logic of RonStar's messages and most other Democrat liberals on the forum who rant against trophy hunts. It is ONLY because of trophy hunts than many of Africa's natural preserves for large wild animals still exist. THEY WANT THOSE SHUT DOWN!!! Then they could rant against hunters for the extinctions they themselves deliberately caused.

FACT: 99.9% of extinctions occurred on earth before homo sapiens even existed. Human management is the only chance nearly all large wildlife species have of avoid extinction. Otherwise they will go extinct for the same reasons their much larger ancestors went extinct.

 

No, he wants them executed.

 

And the reason to trap and then release them is???

 

Give them a good talking to before release and they will go somewhere else.

 

Truck them all the NYC and release them for how much Democrat leftists love animals.

 

I routinely donate lots of $$ to the ASPCA, WWF, Orangutan Foundation International, Save The Chimps, and to local animal charities.

 

Probably the hunter was member of Antifa and thought the Giraffe was a racist Fascist

 

I also worked to protect Piping Plovers, Diamondback Terrapins and migratory birds years ago with the National Parks Service.

 

Wow, those two messages took some Google searching!

 

Along with the FBI stuff. Impressive

 

Bet that's a tongue-in-cheek answer too!

 

no, just forgot to mention what I did in the past.

 

no, its 100% factual.

i monitored Piping Plovers on the beach in Rockaway, Diamondback Terrapin in Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge where I also worked to protect birds from cats and racoons.

 

After he retired as an admiral and a short stint on the NSA?

When a person blows their reputation as he has about himself in his contradictory messages, its all worthless if speaking of personal experiences. He can certainly debate issues and tell any stories he want to.

It is sad. Some people are quite house bound including for reasons beyond their own and they hope to make some real personal connection at least at some level. That doesn't work with someone who is someone else of a different declared history month after month. But, again, making up things about yourself doesn't break any forum rules.

If an aged person who had a major stroke and is stuck in a wheelchair in assisted living on government welfare wants to live in their heads on the forum as a young athletic college student my view is I'm fine with that, I really am. Then I'll get to know their alternative self. But that changes if next month the person is a wealthy lawyer in DC, followed by being retired military, followed by being an active Marine, followed by bragging of being a hunter, followed by hating hunters, followed by being an accountant, followed by being...

I've seen that on every forum I'm on. They think no one notices, but I do - and so do others. There also is a common trait to such people. They'll never admit a mistake or error of any kind. On this forum, dozens of times I've acknowledges if some fact I believed to be true is false or make a wrong prediction. Not fakers. They never will. Again, that's sad. For our oft differences but also exchanges I felt some "debate world" connection between us - trivial but real. Not anymore. He's not real in my opinion, but an every changing personae. I have my theories why people do so - but mostly it is a lack of respecting anyone in my view.

Yet, setting all that aside, IF he makes a viable political claim with an actual basis if fact or some logic, it is legitimate to debate him over THAT. So I'll keep debating him - only put him on ignore when he was posting truly sick personal attacks against the FLOTUS in pure hateful terms, not as humor. Just don't accept any fact claims without proof.

 

So you meant to say the Jamaican National Park Service?

What year was that and for how long?

 

that info is none of your business, I dont need you stalking and harrassing my former employers.