Why was Bob Marley never accused of being an evil racist?

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  1. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate your progressive desire to make racism an exclusively white issue, because you are not willing or able to confront the issue of minority racism, but I’ll remind everyone that this self-serving definition you’ve offered up is not generally accepted outside of kook left wing sources and channels. In the real world, if a black person claims to be racially superior, he’s a racist, by definition.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism
     
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    Bob Marley believed in a pan-African racial movement of blacks, with the goal being a unified black Africa. Read the OP.
     
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    How interesting, progressives redefining the word racism so that by definition only white people can be racist. I wonder why any dictionary says a different thing though.

    So believing the black race is superior like explicitly said in the OP is not racist, but believing the white race is superior is racist? Double standards are very progressive.

    Total projection. Only progressives use the term "reverse racism".

    Normal people just call racism against whites what it is : racism, period.

    This "prejudice+power" nonsense is just another attempt of progressives at redefining the word racism, which is in contradiction to what any dictionary says, since no dictionary says anything about that.

    Why even go that way of using a made-up definition to prove that only whites can be racist? You already said yourself that *by definition* only whites can be racist.

    You guys redefining the word "racism" is just like you guys redefining the word "gender". It only works within your echo chamber. We're not having it.

    You people don't get to re-write the dictionary.
     
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    The unanimous defense of black supremacism and separatism by progressives was expected. The truth is, they don’t mind if non whites exhibit racial bias. Only when whites do this is there a problem, and there’s a specific reason for this.
     
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    Such ‘victims’...:roll: I get a laugh at these white people who cry about racism, as if they’ve ever experienced real racism.
     
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    I get a laugh at progressives such as yourself failing to defend your double standards, as you did here.
     
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    Wait...so I’m a ‘progressive’ because I recognize white people crying about racism makes them sound like c#&!$? That’s some funny stuff.
    Show me I defended this ‘double standard’.
    Again, if Marley was such a racist why haven’t you been able to give a list of right wing groups that took issue with him?
     
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    They define it for you? So you consider yourself a racists, I see.

    No. Democrats don't define it. It has been defined by centuries of history.

    First error: there is no such thing as "race". Not objectively. Not in a biological sense. Not in an anthropological sense. There is the Human Race. Which is just another way of referring to the Human Species. And there are clines, there are ethnicities, there are cultures.... There are also racists, as explained above. But no races.

    I don't know about Democrats, But you might be attacked by any moderately intelligent rational person from any Party for calling idiotic statements a "good test".

    Unless you meant to say the test was on you. In which case I can confidently say: you fail!
     
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    It's not a matter of it being my desire or not. It just is. My desire would have been that you hadn't been misinformed by racists. But you have. I have explained reality to you.

    And you prove it yourself. You are wondering why Bob Marley is not considered a racist. You probably wonder, because racists drill you with this nonsense why "affirmative action" is not racism. Or why saying things like "black lives matter" is not racist while saying "white lives matter" is.

    Well.... there's your answer.

    And, BTW, don't be ridiculous. A dictionary? Really?

    Here

    https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition
     
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    How many posts of yours crying about white racism do I need to produce?
     
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    “Dude, you use dictionaries to look up the meaning of words?!? Don’t you know that’s a fallacy over here on the left where we can redefine words as necessary to suit our agenda”?

    That about cover it, Golem?
     
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    Dig up as many as you can.
     
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    No.

    The Dictionary just gives a Dictionary Definition. See here https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/27/Appeal-to-Definition

    Dictionaries don't define words. Common use defines words. And, as I told a poster before you, I'm sure you have wonered,, because racists drill you with this nonsense why "affirmative action" is not racism. Or why saying things like "black lives matter" is not racist while saying "white lives matter" is. This is the reason.

    In the U.S., that would be correct
     
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    In a post, above, @ECA makes two great points. One is explicit: There is no difference on how the right or the left would view something like this. Only the far far far extreme right (where racists dwell) would bring up something like this. The other is implicit: a it has to do with your "dictionary definition" claim.

    You see, Dictionaries don't define the meaning of words. Speakers define the meaning, in everyday use depending on what the word evokes in the mind of the large majoty. And this can vary broadly from one English-speaking country to another... Dictionaries attempt, to the best of their abilities, to capture the most general form of the meaning in a brief concise way. And what I wrote was an example of this. In the U.S., because of our history, culture, social structure, etc... when the large majority of people hear the word "racist" they think of a white person discriminating against minorities. It makes no difference if they're progressive or conservative or....anything.... Only from a racist would Bob Marley come up in a conversation as in any conceivable way an example of a racists.

    Again: This is why, despite what racists tell you, affirmative action is not racist, black lives matter is not racist, but saying "white lives matter" is.

    Now you know. You can continue blurting ignorance to your heart's contempt because it favors your ideology. But don't blame it on not knowing the facts.
     
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    Very well.


    There are probably more, but this is a decent collection to show that you do view racism from whites against minorities as a problem. However, as we have seen in this thread, racist minorities are not a problem for you. In fact, it makes you laugh when a white person brings them up. What is one to conclude about your position with this information?
     
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    “Dictionaries don’t define words”.

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    Can I ask your ethnicity, Golem?
     
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    Mostly he spewed ganja smoke...
     
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    Hahahahaha...those were all comments in reply to racial topics, which is very different than ‘crying’ about racism. You do realize in the first two comments I don’t mention anything about white people, correct?
    White supremacists ARE racist. You don’t dispute that do you?
    Calling a black person an ape is racist. Has there been any minority celebs who have made racist comments about white people? When one does let me know and I’ll call them out.
    What black racism has occurred recently that I could comment on??? I’d be happy to but haven’t seen any threads about widespread black racism.
     
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    what did Bob Marley say that was racist?
     
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    you mean this Africa, that was under white colonial control?

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    absolute rot.
     
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    Some say the Asians, not the Caucasians, may be the latest "race" - that would made them "improved" in relation with big-nosed, round-eyed "us".
     
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    Once you sell enough records, anything you say becomes artistic license if it's LW compliant. Same applies to non LW compliant artists, but all eight of those had to sell 10x as many records first.
     
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    Calling Bob Marley's ideals on African politics racial supremacy would be like calling people who are pro-European Union racial supremacists. It's a doltish notion from dullard minded individuals.
     
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    Wrong. He limited it to people of African descent. Aka black people. Your equivalency would only make sense if someone was calling for a European Union of white people, and you’d accuse them of racism for promoting that view.
     
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