Guns & Stand Your Ground victory. Got a problem with that? video included.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Moi621, Jul 20, 2018.

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Do YOU support this Stand Your Ground example of lethal gun defense?

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  2. No

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  1. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The attacker, Markeis McGlockton was a thug who initiated the assault with intent to do bodily harm. McGlockton’s criminal record includes drug charges, petty theft, and an aggravated battery arrest that all happened before 2011.

    So a violent POS was shot. Moral of the story, keep your hands to yourself and don't be a thug.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Your perception, and your ignorance of the law, doesn't matter.
     
  3. Quadhole

    Quadhole Well-Known Member

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    In some situations and some people should be allowed to carry a gun for such a reason. This was provoked by the old man not minding his ****ing business. Typical Florida quack down here that want to tell Northerners, and black people how they should live. Once he pulled the gun, the guy wasn't coming forward again, that would be protecting yourself, what he did was PAYBACK for the shove.

    He could have easily had the guy arrested for assult. He didnt want to do that, he wanted to shoot and kill the guy because he was pissed off. Others know this guy patrols parking lots with the same dispute. He was and will be looking for others to do the same thing. So, he is now the handicap nazi patrol. This is just the type of thing that allows gun owners to take advantage of the situation.

    I know many guys down here that are the same way, go read FLORIDA Sportsman Magazine forum (off topics) join and blast those dudes. Bunch of filthy rednecks that want to tell others what is best for them... I do, you should join and blast too.
     
  4. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was not justified for the criminal McGlockton to violently push someone to the ground. I hope you don't go around pushing others to the ground---it's just not right.
     
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    The people saying this guy shouldn't have shot, do not understand the mechanics of the flight or fight response. Logic no longer applies when this happens. The law looks at the state of mind of the shooter at the moment he fired. The man was violently assaulted and shoved to the ground. His flight or fight response was triggered, and he legitimately had a fear for his life. This shooting is legally justified.

    You can't apply 20/20 hindsight without taking into account biology.
     
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    Bad news: Your perceptions do not matter.
     
  7. jgoins

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    How does the person on the ground know more attacks aren't on the way? How many times have we seen in videos people being shoved to the ground then be brutally kicked over and over or jumped on and brutally beaten? One can be in fear of great bodily harm or in fear of one's life even from beatings. How many people have been beaten to death or do you think it is not possible to do so?
     
  8. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the video is right there. watch it and thrn come back and tell me he was retreating. If you do you go permanent ignore. I have no time for people who deny fact.
     
  9. Quadhole

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    Your wrong dude... I think the guy is a POS too. And what he did deserved to be punished by the POLICE, law enforcement, etc. But, because someone pushes you to the ground doesn't give you the right to kill him. Your comment is racially motivated.
    Maybe 1 /1000 black people would agree with you.
    1/10 Canadians. 1/500 Indians, 1 2500 Europeans... 1/4 southern state Americans would agree with you. Thus, you are wrong...

    Would i do it too, probably if in that guys shoes. Out of revenge, not out of feeling threatened, once I pulled the gun, now I am protected... He was hoping that guy would push him so that he could shoot him. No doubt in my mind he does it again if someone even gets close. He wil lwalk up to someones car nowe, get close to them, when they get close back, he is going to shoot.

    He feels he is in the right to defend a parking space. it isn't his business... make a comment, etc. go ahead, but dont confront people... Southern BS !
     
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    He is retreating, especially as soon as he seen the gun. You are looking at it thru you "hate blackie glasses"
     
  11. Quadhole

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    Then dont confront people about a handicap parking space, mind your damn business....
     
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    It seems as though you just don't like a gun being used in any situation. The attacker was bigger and younger than the person on the ground, do you think that gives him a right to attack someone?
     
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    Because he's pointing a gun at an unarmed man who's backing away.

    Examples of beatings where the person on the ground getting beaten DOESN'T have a gun pointed at the attacker is irrelevant.
     
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    false never turned his back once until he got shot. Three seconds is not enough to assess he is not a danger.
     
  15. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you are permanently igored for race baiting. Got your name right at least. The ******* level x4
     
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    Wrong again. Already stated, several times in this thread in fact, if the guy stepped TOWARDS Drejka then I would have supported him shooting.
    Also stated, several times in this thread, that the guy shouldn't have shoved Drejka.
    Please get your head out of your backside will ya.
     
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    Under the law, if you have reasonable fear of death or bodily injury, you have the right to use deadly force in self-defense.
    The physical assault creates reasonable fear.
     
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    Please put me on ignore. You are LYING. You know damn well he is backing away.
     
  19. AlphaOmega

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    sure thing. But first just tell us at which point his back turns to the victim to retreat. Before or after he is shot?
     
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    Im happy a man was able to defend his life, and survived.

    Argue however you'd like, but its futile because you have no idea what was in his head.

    And law enforcement investigated and found the man's use of force justified.
     
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    How it is down here. These people lost their slaves, then lost their right to keep them away, separate table, bathroom, etc. Now they see them with white girls and they hate it. Add into the fact that these same guys support TRUMP, BUSH, REAGAN because it "FEELS LIKE" the party of white. Now, many of them, just like up north are making pennies on the dollar compared to Inflation and what their stance was in the community 30 years ago. They are then dumb enough to vote for the very people putting them in this position. Add it all up and someone has to pay for it. Every Black person they meet is a Welfare recipient, THUG, has 10 kids, daddies baby, drug dealer, and so on. To them, everyone of them sucks the community dry. Trump feeds right into this thinking and it drives these guys to hate. The fact they still make 20$ is the BLACK GUYS FAULT, or the Mexicans, Muslims, and or China...

    Not the super Rich guy that put them here, the Bezos, or Icahn, or Trump... To them, these rich guys are self made billionaires that just worked harder then everyone else... Not true, but it is what they tell themselves. These very guys have run the gammit of excuses, from Trickle down, to equal tax to equal person...

    At one time they said, china goods are good for America because they make things AFFORDABLE. Now they follow the opposite agenda because they are told to via TRUMP.
    Same thing with the Immigrants, before their comment was, we need them to do the cheap jobs no one else wants to do, it helps keep the price of lettuce, tomato's and Oranges down for Americans, it is a good thing... Now, the opposite. They truly are puppets of the South. Ad on it those friends of theirs that attend a CHURCH that now preaches from the RIGHT, pushes that agenda and you get what we have here...
     
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    What does that matter? He was BACKING away BEFORE he was shot. That's all that matters. The only people it doesn't matter too are people like Drejka who are chicken ****
     
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    His back turns ? He is stepping backwards 3 or 4 steps when he is shot !
     
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    He didn't flash a gun.

    He drew, aimed, and fired one shot.

    All justified.
     
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    Why do you continue with this irrelevance?
    Your opinions here do not matter.
     

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