Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting in 2016

That one's easy if I have to choose among liars and these days it all boils down to that I will take the one at least is telling me things I want to hear as opposed to the one that is telling things I know to be poppycock.

 

Only avid witch hunting zealots give a hoot about such a nothing burger.

 

Because ignoring even the possibility that Trump colluded with Russians as a means of making gains against Hillary in the election is not only illegal, but a form of conspiracy and possibly even treason. If you love your country at all, you would not want anyone in the Oval Office who did that--no matter who they were. I'm not saying Trump is guilty yet, but there's growing evidence to that effect, and I certainly want to know the outcome of the Mueller investigation.

 

If we accept your suggestion that we can never trust any of our leaders, then it's a short trek to not trusting our neighbors, or our families, or anyone else. At that point what value is having a country at all?

 

What growing evidence?

There is no more evidence today than there was a year and a half ago.

But please share this mounting evidence with us.

 

Security.

That's the only reason any society develops.

You never trust them all but you trust that enough will watch your back as you watch theirs.

 

There is no such thing as real security in life. It always tosses you a curve ball. And, regardless of security, we all end up dead in the end.

 

No, not really. I have a hard time believing anyone asking for the job, wasn't in it for self-serving reasons.

Does history tell me different? There are very few altruists in this world.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-much-m...worth-trump-capitalism-pay-wall-street-591762

 

Much of that evidence is from Trump himself, making public requests from the Russians to find Hillary's lost emails--that is, PUBLICALLY ASKING A FOREIGN POWER TO ASSIST HIM AGAINST HIS POLITICAL OPPONENT during an election. His meeting with Russian diplomats in the Oval Office shortly after his inauguration with only Russian reporters there to report it was disturbing at best--possibly treasonous at worst. We can't defend him because we had no one present to defend his actions. The latest news that his old friend and personal attorney has now stated Trump DID KNOW of that worrisome meeting in Trump Tower during the campaign where Russians offered trashing info to Trump against Hillary & Trump's son was excited to pursue that in the meeting. Trump has been denying he knew for over a year. The recent summit between Putin & Trump, again held in secrecy, is deeply disturbing and possibly threatening, for we have no idea what Trump is sharing with Putin, or whether it might involve state secrets or even defense secrets. No one was there to offer evidence to the contrary. Trump is a known Russia enthusiast. Yet, he is President of the U.S., a major opponent of Russia internationally. That makes for some unstable scenarios, and our nation's security is at stake. We better be vigilant on this or we might suffer some rather severe consequences.

 

The two terms are NOT mutually exclusive. Lincoln was ambitious as a person, but quite humane and altruistic as a leader. There have been others.

 

You obviously don't know the law that well.

None of that is evidence of anything outside of your liberal brain.

All I see is our president talking to the head of another foreign nation, which is kinda their job.

Outside of our invasion of Russia and the missile crisis, they have always been our ally.

 

Men like Lincon no longer exist. If they do they sure wouldn't want to be president.
Let me ask you, do you really believe either choice we had was the honesty this country needs to heal?

 

I know of no American invasion of Russia in our history. Can you enlighten us? I agree, talking with leaders of other nations is part of a President's job, but Trump is doing it in ways that could be threatening to our safety & security by doing it alone. During the campaign he kept saying "only I can do it." America has never been a nation that endorsed one man rule. I hope we aren't now. I don't. Do you?

 

Of course you don't because you don't know politics very well.

And it shows.

But let me enlighten you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force,_Siberia

 

First, I do believe there are always men & women like Lincoln around us. I agree that most would have little interest in subjecting themselves to the abuse our current Presidents endure.

On your question, I'm not totally sure what you're asking, but if it is whether either Trump or Hillary were the best choices by our parties for the Presidency, I would say no, neither one was.

 

You know Trump is guilty as hell. Your posts tell me that. You offer nothing in return.

 

What a bunch of crap. I have heard that before from Trump fans. To defend their hero, they say Trump is just another in a long line of crooked, lying politicians, as if that makes him acceptable. It is okay if he conspires with Russia. It is a natural for unscrupulous politicians. They all would do it. What a sicko argument.

You have my sympathies.

 

I have always maintained that the Democrats are responsible for Trump.

 

Take a look at this -
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/18/foreign-money-campaign-finance-lobbying_n_897189.html
And this -
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=4897444&page=1

This stuff DOES happen.

If we impeach Trump for doing it, this country isn't going to benefit. Every country in the world is influenced by the United States. We have our own motivations and own opinions, they haven't changed much since I've been following politics. I don't see how it's possible Russia could change American Lives in any significant way. Unless they drop a bomb, then we're screwd.

I believe that's what Trump's intentions were with Russia, to play nice.

Russia is into that. Why wouldn't they be? They start their little campaign to help him get elected. Trump doesn't have to have to be aware of it to happen. It seems like the natural course to me.

Now he can't play nice, he can't afford the political capital, and the Democrats are more zealous than ever about our ENEMY. ​

That said, If there is evidence Trump was actually part of a plan, and he was aware of the crimes, Ax him. It won't matter. We still will not have learned a damn thing.
In the meantime, this is all just an excuse for Congress not to deal with the problems we are really facing.

 

I was merely getting you back on topic. You strayed. Another one who totally agrees with my article.

 

Yes, back on topic...

 

They all do it. OK? Do you think all the money, that flows into these people's bank accounts, is from American interests? That's pretty naive.

 

Fine, we are in agreement. The rest of your post is merely a distraction from the premise of this thread.

 

Thank you. That helps a great deal.

 

I want you to review the OP and tell me what I got wrong. I will make it easy for you.

"(CNN)Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's former personal attorney, claims that then-candidate Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton, sources with knowledge tell CNN. Cohen is willing to make that assertion to special counsel Robert Mueller, the sources said."

Trump, of course, denies knowing anything about the meeting. So, it is a question of "he said, she said."

Let's back up a moment. What was the meeting all about? The email exchange between Don, Jr. and his friend, Rob Goldstone, details exactly what this meeting is all about.

On June 3, 2016, Goldstone emailed Junior, "The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin."

Junior replied on June 3, "Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?"

A series of emails followed and they agreed to meet in Trump Tower on June 9.

We are now 18 months into the Trump administration, and one thing is perfectly clear. Trump runs the entire show. He is even his own communications director. He wishes not to share the spotlight with members of his cabinet. Whether it is talking about tariffs, the economy, security along our southern border, the summit with Kim Jong Un, the summit with Putin, Trump does the talking. James Mattis is the most silent SecDef in American history. The normally vocal John Bolton is as silent as the sphinx. John Kelly has not said a word since he informed reporters months ago he was not being fired. Leading up to the summits in Singapore and Helsinki, SecState Mike Pompeo said absolutely nothing.

Trump is the ultimate control freak. He controls everything said or done in the Trump White House. That is his nature. That is how he ran his business empire.

Now he wants us to believe in had a lapse in June 2016.

Trump's son, Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, met with four Russian operatives at Trump's home, Trump Tower, to gain leverage over the Clinton campaign. We are supposed to believe, according to Trump, that he knew nothing about the meeting.

"NO ... I did NOT know of the meeting with my son, Don jr. Sounds to me like someone is trying to make up stories in order to get himself out of an unrelated jam (Taxi cabs maybe?)," Trump tweeted Friday.

It matters little that the Russians were not forthcoming. What matters is that the Trump campaign attempted collaboration with a hostile foreign government.

Every speck of logic indicates strongly that meeting had Trump's blessing.

Not having given approval would be completely out of character. There is one thing about Trump that is very consistent. The control over his campaign and his White House is absolute.

Why is this important? It would indicate to Mueller that there was collaboration between the President and a hostile foreign power. That is clearly an impeachable offense.