The Religion of Atheism

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  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    You are definitely delusional.

    Cant even give a straight answer.
    And somehow you believe your delusional rants.
     
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  2. ECA

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    First off...don't edit my posts. It's dishonest.
    Second...could you repeat what you posted but in English this time?
    So I'll ask again...Do you consider not believing in Santa Claus or ghosts as a 'belief system'? Of course not. You just simply don't believe in those things, right?
     
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    Just dropping in to say you are wrong....but using bigger letters so I am right.
     
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    ask a straight question and you will get a straight answer.
    no thats reserved for the neoatheists lol
    Could you go to school and learn english so I dont have to repeat everything?
    No I referenced the part of your post I responded to, its honest.
    ah, yes he lacks bigger letters, thats got it!
     
  5. ECA

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    You really think this 'sentence' makes sense?
    "not believing
    is the identical to
    believing not
    to say its not as others have is delusional
    "
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    sure to anyone with a grasp on logical expressions.
    Here I just explained in another thread.

    and a theist lacks disbelief, since they chose only to believe. In both cases the theist has a brain, the neoatheist does not need one, any more than a rock needs one, and technically only agnostic can claim lack of belief or absence of belief because they do not believe or disbelieve, they abstain from an affirmative or negative belief position which is also a conscious choice that requires a brain.

    The only position in the group that requires no brain is the neo atheist
     
  7. ECA

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    Again I will ask....is your not believing in Santa Claus or ghosts a ‘belief system’ or is it just not believing?
     
  8. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Go back and reread the definition of " thing" and then try again to prove that any "thing " of your choice doesn't exist. Or if " thing" is too hard for you to understand try proving that any imaginary being or creature doesn't exist. You know like unicorns or gods or devils or Leprechauns. IF you can prove any one of the previous mentioned creature doesn't exist you will win. Or you could just go back and try to expain why the analogies that you always duck aren't relevant .
     
  9. Etbauer

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    You did what now?
    What courts do is split the argument into two groups. Someone picks a side and holds onto it for dear life, doing their best to downplay anything that hurts their point, and cherry picking the things that back up their claim, giving absolutely no thought to the underlying reality of the situation. What science does is look at the evidence that exists, and determine reality based on the best evidence.
    As I explained above, this is exactly what courts do. You are looking at this as a win/lose thing, where you need to hold on to your position regardless of how bad it is, how badly it models reality and how much the evidence is stacked against you. This is why you avoid the absurdities that your positions lead to by grabbing onto and focusing on inanities like dictionary definitions, or just screaming that you have won with no reason to think so. That is why you are afraid to answer questions. Your belief is wrong, and you are afraid to test it, so you console yourself that dodging questions is a valid debate strategy. As long as you yell that you won, you don't have to question your nonsensical beliefs.
    I explain this above.
    No luck,no competition. I engage with challenges and questions, you don't. My beliefs don't imply ridiculous conclusions, yours do.
    No, when you have nothing else, then you have nothing. You can't say "this completely unconvincing mega-weak piece of evidence is all I have therefore it is as strong as your actual logic."
    Cite what? This?
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3093742/
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-near-death-experience-isnt-proof-heaven/
    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/12/seeing-god-in-the-third-millennium/266134/
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-causes-spooky-out-of-body-experiences/
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science-debunks-miracle-of-weeping-madonna-1590530.html
    See? This is why you should understand that you aren't qualified to have opinions. If you think I said that, then you aren't smart enough to disagree with me. You should just do and think what those of us who are smarter than you do and think.
     
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    I doubt anyone can actually believe and not believe equally on the issue of the existance of a god. It might be genuinely possible not to care at all but to believe and disbelieve equally defies " belief "
     
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    What an insane conversation.
     
  12. Etbauer

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    To be fair, are there any good ones on this forum?
     
  13. yasureoktoo

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    You got me there, but this komo guy is a piece of work.
    I can just visualize him, sitting in front of his computer all day long,
    Usually with nothing to say, but says it loudly.
    probably high on something.
     
  14. Etbauer

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    I think a disability is closer to the mark.
     
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    Physical and mental.
     
  16. Etbauer

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    No idea about the physical
     
  17. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    all possible beliefs or disbeliefs in which you use to take a position are a belief system that you own.
     
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    So you not believing in Santa Claus is a belief system you hold, is it? Interesting.
     
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    please read for comprehension
     
  20. Etbauer

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    Deepity
     
  21. ECA

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    I did. You hold not believing in Santa to be a belief system. Got it.
     
  22. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes, thats the idea not the rule.
    Thats your opinion which is not the same as a fact though you think it is, there is still a right and wrong and if you didnt think so you wouldnt be here.
    They are your absurdities not mine, my positions are pure logic through and through.
    I answeered every one of your questions
    I lack belief and disbelief. Im agnostic.
    well maybe you should recognize its illogical or prove it is logical instead of ranting all the time.
    It makes the point and proves you wrong what more do i need?
    I know you said that and I posted it several times so we could all gaze at it with shock and amazement.
    and that means exactly what on the scheme of things? are you trying to say a little lackinization will be slipped under the table?
    Yeh it gets rough when you want to leave the realm of logic and get all subjective n ****.
    yeh the neo atheist shtick
    me? I have severe allergies to ignorance.
    yeh I have to drink a shot and a beer after readon the foolishness some of these neoathists post
    :deadhorse: They take a licken and keep on ticken!
     
  23. Etbauer

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    See? This is one reason why you are wrong so much. This is a very wrong statement, and indicates a very illogical basis on which to found your thinking.
    The fact that there is a right and a wrong is exactly what I am arguing. Once again, you aren't good at logic, you don't understand what I am saying and you don't understand what you are saying.
    No, when the absurdities are pointed out to you, you dive and dodge like muhammad ali. There are several places in this post alone where your logic fails miserably. You don't operate on logic, you operate on shouting your feelings over and over again.
    This is another failure of your logic: Repeating things that aren't true over and over don't make them any more real, and thinking that it does is a failure of logic.
    Your position states that we should treat everything no matter how absurd as being real. You dodge and at least pretend you don't understand that, so this may be another failure of your logic, but according to your argument the tooth fairy, and everything else is as real as the objects we touch. This is an absurdity in your position and instead of addressing it, you dodge and focus on something else that isn't important. You haven't given us an example of something that doesn't exist outside of mathematics, and you failed when you tried using math. I proved that to you too, which you also just dodged, covered your ears and screamed.
    Tell me one way in which my position is illogical.
    Because it doesn't do either. It is just the only thing that one could think is evidence for your position if one didn't understand logic or reality.
    Again, failure in your logic. I didn't say that, your grasp of logic is so poor however, that you don't understand what I said.
    Let's also not forget that you are a liar too:
     
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    I lack belief, I am an atheist.
     
  25. Kokomojojo

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    I lack disbelief, I am a theist! :nana:

    But nothing is real!



    Of course!

     
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