Why do people not value free stuff? Share your thoughts!

You forgot free internet that's the same speed for everyone and free cell phones

 

You're referring to the failed 'state' communism of the 20thC. Nothing like the ordinary, coalface version (which is voluntary). And yes, there's a UNIVERSE of difference between the cafe malcontents who imagine life under communism will be exactly the same but with more free stuff, and those who know it's anything but (because they live it, rather than talk about it).

 

Most often, free things are of poor quality and/or are bait for fraud.

 

If i share my thoughts for free, i doubt you will value them

Maybe you can send me some money first

 

I remember getting a call c. 1990 where the man said "We're giving you a free Sony 27" TV. Just come on down to our location on the Pass Road and sign some papers." I told him that I was turning the TV over to him and that it was his from now on. He said, "No it's your TV," and I said, "Yes it's mine, and I'm giving it to you. It's yours now." Sign papers on something free? That'll be a cold day deep down yonder.

 

What? That's crazy talk. Our roadsides are littered with discarded furniture, white goods, clothing, etc. As are our refuse centres.

My local refuse centre can provide (in a single visit .. assuming you have a big enough truck) almost all the materials you'd need to build a small house - including doors and windows, toilets, bathtubs, kitchen cabinets, hardwood floors, tiles for wet areas, roofing sheets, etc - AND all the furniture for it, AND all the kitchen and table wear, AND a library of books, AND computers from which to take parts and build your own, AND garden furniture, AND a lawnmower, AND fencing materials/gates, AND tvs, AND clothing.

 

But to folks who dont build stuff (which is most ppl anymore) thats still just junk.

This is the 'pay someone else to do it' world.

 

They're all one and the same. Scratch a communist from the bolshevik revolution and a starbucks antifa communist and you'll find they operate using the exact same premises. Namely, that wealth is not created through hard work and there are some people who take advantage of that due to holding an overly abundant accumulation of that finite wealth.

People always operate from base principles, even if they are too stupid to know that they do. This is why it's so easy to tell what side of any issue that a lefty will take. They're a simple people with simple morals.

 

You're talking about two very different types of "communist", than those I refer to. One is the failed 20thC 'state' version, and the other is just poseurs in a cafe, in their comfortable First World cities.

I'm talking about bona fide, working communists. You know ... actual collectivists, walking the walk. LIVING the communism.

 

Only the house part requires building. The rest just requires a truck to take it home in. And maybe a damp cloth and some warm soapy water.

How is it 'junk'?

 

Dont ask me. I have lots of 'junk'. Im just telling you how most folks view it.

I fix all my sh**.

 

Confusion between wants and needs. In the process the pleasure of fulfilling the want is associated with spending.

 

No, they're the exact same. The ones back then who lived the life still operated using the exact same hedonistic values as the ones who sit in starbucks guzzling down their mocha double frappe espressos before going home to their mom's section 8 basements.

Hedonism is a siren song to R selected people.

 

Once the mower is on the kerb for free, presumably to anyone, you have relinquished ownership. Do people ask if they can take the mower or do they just take it?

 

The only real commies now are Maoists in China and possibly a few Leninists in Cuba, neither of whom will be picking up mowers from the kerb in the US.

 

Of course you completely missed the dichotomy of two states to the same mower. One was for free, and the other for sale. So why was the one for sale stolen, when it could have been taken?

To understand the difference, you need to actually appreciate the fundamental difference between giving and selling. Communists don't understand it, which is why you only talk of the one on the "kerb" for free. The same mower on the "kerb" with a price tag makes as much sense to you as a pet rock for sale on ebay for 100 bucks. Why would you pay 100 bucks for something that is free?

 

Talking to wrong person I built a CNC machine from an old commercial magazine printer headed to the scrap yard!

 

You're probably right.

 

Of course I am.

 

Not of course.

 

If I give you a big block of gold will you not value it? Will you just give it away to the first guy who asks? I think that indeed you will not. You will act exactly as if you value it very highly even though it was free to you. We value money and other things because of what they can bring us, the luxurious houses, fast cars and ostrich coats. The things we value are valueless in and of themselves and it doesn't really matter how we came to have them

 

I'll get the Indian guy to do that on the Melton Road Then sell it for cash to him. Living near the golden mile we have options on how to launder our gold lol.

 

Of course no knowledge is absolute, but I can explain why you are how you are using science. It's all about epigenetics. It's why conservatives are found out in the sticks and progressives who think everything they need should be for free in the city. It explains everything about your socialist tendencies, your anger at Trump (who really isn't all that damn conservative) and your inability to comprehend the difference between free and for sale.

Whereas you, you simply think I am stupid but with nothing more than feelings to back that up with.

Have you ever wondered why the political landscape is so easy to predict based upon population density? Nope. Have you ever wondered why people think differently from you? Nope.

It's all just more aspects of being epigenetically selected as an R. The intellectual curiosity is not there, and the reason is because of the environment you were raised in. All you really know is that Trump supporters are evil, we hate you, and the Russians have landed.

It also explains the OP's question of why some people do not value free stuff.

 

I've never been patronised by an American before. Goodness, how amusing.
You still haven't explained why I am how I am.

 

I explained that it's about epigenetics. This isn't a university and I'm not being paid to teach you. I gave you a bread crumb to follow, and you can follow it or ignore it.