What is democratic socialism everyone is talking about.

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  1. Space_Time

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    Democratic socialism is where the citizens vote on govt. referendums that affect socialism in their community or nation, and allows religion
     
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    HItler was elected by almost exactly the same means that has put every English priminister in Office since 1900
     
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    It has yet to work out that way in practice. In practice it always become the idea that some bureaucrat in some office some where knows better how youshould live your life than you do.
     
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    The programs are socialist in nature the countries themselves are not full socialism requires that the government own the means of Production Britain tried that in the years before Thatcher. It was an unmitigated disaster. That is what miss Ocassio is pushing.
     
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    Hitler was not elected at all. He was appointed.
     
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    Nor was any English priminister.
     
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    It's just national socialism, but with a democracy instead of other forms of socialism that are restricted to nation states. It's not like democratic socialism extends to other countries, so it's the same thing as the nazis.

    It's the same damn song the socialists play time after time after time. Don't blame the commies. They really can't help themselves. They're like drug addicts who keep coming up with new reasons why it's a great idea to loan them some money, and of course they'll pay you back just as soon as they have a few spare dollars.
     
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    The only country that charges you a tariff is your own.
    Other countries charge their own people tariffs.

    The idea of doing so is definitely to promote their own goods over yours. I am not ideologically opposed to retaliation and protectionism. And balanced trade is the optimum goal.
     
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    I'm of the opinion that it should be based on wage structure so countries producing goods with $1 a day wage should be taxed on import vs the country that's paying $10 an hour.

    BUT the danger becomes those people who get $1 a day get nothing!
     
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    Hitler was elected to the Reichstag.
    The elected parliament appointed him Chancellor and then voted to change the constitution to make him a dictator.

    Democracy in action.
    Even North Korea is "democratic".

    The USA is perhaps unique as a nation in that it directly elects it's leaders (in Primaries?)
    All other democracies do not.



    Colloquial usage.

    Democratic Socialism = "Socialism" (eg. Fascism or Communism).
    Liberal Democracy = "Democracy". (eg. Anglo countries)
    Social Democracy = "Democracy". (eg Western Europe).
     
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    Hitler was not elected to the Reichstag.
     
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    Of course he was.
    Chancellor is a political appointment made by the President from the ranks of his elected cabinet.

    1933 The Nazi's has 33% of the vote. They were the second biggest party in office.
    The National Socialists and the Social Democrats formed a coalition government to keep out the Communists.

    Then they changed the law. Democratically, to make him the top guy.


    What did you think happened? He marched into office at the head of an army of skinheads?
    Hitler was a very popular fellow in his day. People voted for him.
    He offered to tax the **** out of all those capitalist bastards and give the money to the workers who earn it. Standard centre left policies of the day.
    You know the Hugo Chavez routine. Promised to renege on the debt, Confiscate all the wealth and spend it on schools and healthcare and roads etc.

    Hitler was a democratically elected dictator.
    They voted him in.
     
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    Who takes care of the people who can't work due to some type of illness, aging, too young to work? I'm curious who these shirkers are. The actual number of true shirkers and they do exist are very small. Most folks want to work or have some meaningful way to take of them and theirs but it isn't always enough. Some people work 40 hour weeks and still can't support their families (small children, the elderly). What about them?
     
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    What workers? What are the workers giving that they do not first take?
     

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