Young adults still not buying houses

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Nah, it's pretty obvious you didn't know what the Anglosphere was.
    Nope you're still off base. I wasn't referring to Britain. You seem to have a hard time getting that through your skull. Why don't you just admit you didn't know what the Anglosphere was, but hey, you do now, and feel stupid for thinking it was Britain?
     
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  2. Reiver

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    Playing pretend won't help. The problem is that your prattle about the Anglosphere guaranteed illogical comment, given the necessary inclusion of example where merit based systems have not been needed to increase human capital levels. And of course you have no explanation for that. This has guaranteed your dodge routine. Kind of cute really.
     
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    You're still make me laugh. You made an argument. Its the sort of guff I hear a lot from anti immigrant types. Unfortunately, by referring to the Anglosphere, you encouraged reference to the very particular case of Mother England. That case proves that merit based systems aren't required for immigration to improve human capital levels. And you can't explain it.
     
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    I think this has a lot to do with what we were told in school.


    Everybody that was trying to inspire the students said follow your passion do what you're passionate about. This is terrible advice because what if you're passionate about something you can't make money doing?

    I don't know why they did this I've run across many people who have followed this advice and who are well-educated but struggling to even find work places like convenience stores.

    The best advice is get a skill that is marketable. And then find out how to be passionate about that.
     
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    Or as is more likely the case in my country, millenials don't want to live in a suburban home with a back yard etc, they want to live in 'hipster approved' inner cities (which they cannot afford).
     
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    There is no 'middle class flight' where I live. Middle class people already live in the better areas, and don't need to move. Nor are they going broke (because they're middle class, obviously). Also, here, inner cities have long been highly desirable to the rich and to younger people, and not desirable at all to the poor and the 'trailer trash'. It's not comparable to America.

    All pressure on inner city prices (and they have increased dramatically here, also) is from POPULATION pressure, not 'migrant' pressure specifically. It's simply larger numbers of humans competing for severely limited space. It's going to tell.

    Meantime, gentrification is as previously discussed. More high end housing, less 'low end' housing.
     
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    It's not ideal (closed borders are ideal!), but difference is that our migrants are mostly from cultures which are considerably more industrious than the white 'natives'. We have a LOT of NE Asians and Subcontinentals, for example.
     
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    Since I busted you for not knowing what the Anglosphere is, I'm not worried about your continuing attempts to derail. If you think there is a big point to be made about Britain's immigration system, feel free to make it. However I suggest you start a thread about it, since that topic has nothing to do with this thread.
     
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    Again, I'm merely demonstrating the naivety of the argument made. By referring to the Anglosphere, you ensured reference to Mother England and the irrelevance of a merit based system. Perhaps you shouldn't have made the argument?
     
  10. Lil Mike

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    Perhaps you shouldn't have responded to a post in response to someone else when you didn't even understand the terms involved?
     
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    I understood everything said. As I've politely told you, the argument is wrong. There is no need for a merit based system. And country from the Anglosphere proves it.
     
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    "And country from the Anglosphere proves it."

    I think you are trying to say that one country, the UK, proves it, because ...what?

    As I've said before, you've gotten yourself in a box because you didn't understand what the term Anglosphere referred to, and it's totally off topic. But if you really want to discuss British immigration, start a thread on it and by the way...bring facts to back up your case. You've been making pompous declarations without a shred of evidence to back you up. That's a no go buddy.
     
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    You do need a lot of hand holding on this issue. Britain: no merit based system; still immigration which enhances human capital; no explanation from you, despite its inconsistency with your 'effort'.

    I've merely laughed. Referring to the Anglosphere ensured you destroyed your own argument.
     
  14. Lil Mike

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    And when did I argue that "Britain: no merit based system?" Or that "immigration which enhances human capital?" And more to the point, when did you prove it?

    So you have no facts, not data, no nothing? You were challenged and failed. No worries though, you're not the first one to bite off more than you were prepared to chew.
     
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    You didn't argue it. I did. I did it to destroy the myth, typically as part of an anti-immigrant grunt, that a merit based system is needed.

    Its a shame that you're not already aware of the evidence. An example is Lindley (2009, The overeducation of UK immigrants and minority ethnic groups: Evidence from the Labour Force Survey, Economics of Education Review, 28: pp. 80-89). This paper notes that "most UK immigrant and minority ethnic groups are better educated on average, compared to their White counterparts, in terms of their highest National Vocational Qualification".
     
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    This is truly idiotic. You are arguing a point that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread, or anything to do with anything I posted, about a subject specific to a country that I never mentioned, except that you didn't know what the term Anglosphere meant and have spent days covering up that ignorance with this off topic yawner.
     
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    Awesome response, Mikey!

    :applause::banana:
     
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    That you're nit mentioning merit based systems now, a system typically lauded by anti immigrants, is a win. There was little you could do really, given your reference to the Anglosphere necessarily led to evidence that destroyed the argument made. No need to thank me. Helping you improve your knowledge is a delight in itself
     
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    In the UK migration has caused a massive population spike. Adding about 10% in the last decade.
    Demand was already outstripping supply even before this "invasion".
    Our country, suffering from a housing shortage already, now has to find enough new houses per year to build a new city. Each year.

    It has had an immensely significant effect on housing.

    Not necessarily all negative however as house prices did not crash during the Credit Crunch while in Spain and America, they did.

    Gentrification is cool. No one wishes to live in a slum.
     
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    You live in a merit based system. It is most irrelevent to those without much merit.

    Typically some of those people seek for a new system which places more merit on themselves, while most others seek to improve themselves within existing structures.
     
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    As responses go, that was fairly incoherent. I'm beginning to suspect there is more than one account that's really a bot around here.
     
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    Given I've had to say the obvious over a dozen times, I'm sure you have realised your error. Any chance you could answer my little question? How has Britain managed to increase its human capital levels without a merit based system? I predict 'no answer'
     
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    Given that you have offered a gibberish as a question, why would you expect an answer to it?




    Since no one but you has a flying **** what you are talking about, try this approach.

    Ask the question, then answer it yourself.
    Just say what you think.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think Reiver and jamesM should just start their own thread and talk gibberish to each other.
    It would save everyone else from very low quality debate.
     
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    Lol sometimes I click on one of these threads and there are 10 blank pages.
    Presumably the two of them going at each other. They are well suited. Make a good couple.
     
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