The Pentagon on 9/11 - MODERATOR WARNING ISSUED

Then instead of saying it is silly to ask how many people you think were involved,
Just shoot us a ball park figure.

 

What for? It’s irrelevant how many I think were involved. I already told you it’s a fact that more than 1 person was involved. 9/11 is not about a number guessing game. Grow the fvck up.

 

Then don't you think is just a little unrealistic to have all these obvious thousands of people, involved in a massive coverup.

 

Again it doesn’t matter what I think or how many were involved in 9/11 or the ensuing coverup. What matters is that there is no question there was a coverup and that some members of the Bush administration and others were involved in the coverup that still persists today. This is all documented incontrovertible fact. No one said anything about “thousands”, that’s YOUR red herring idiotic nonsense.

 

Bob, you're smarter than that. You are speaking of a major coverup, that would take thousands of people, and pretending there is not that many to pull it off.
You are not accounting for all the missing people.

all of the most important parts to indicate a conspiracy, you just ignore, so you can present your flimsy case to people who are so disenfranchised they will actually believe you.

 

You quoted me before I had a chance to edit my post. What’s missing is “what matters is that there was a coverup and ...”.

I’m sorry but I’m not interested in pursuing your irrelevant red herring stupidity. What you or anyone else want to believe or not is your prerogative, it doesn’t change the fact that there was/is a coverup of 9/11. I’m not here to try to convince anyone of anything, it’s not my job. I’m posting here merely to discuss 9/11 and all significant related issues. How many has zero significance to me.

 

I have no particular theory. What is certain is that the official story is invalid, a hoax.

What is certain is that Vigilant Guardian was being conducted and there was some amount of confusion between NORAD and FAA controllers.

What is certain is that the aircraft that struck the towers were not the airliners they were said to be. What is certain is that there was no wrecked airliner in Pennsylvania, and that no airliner struck the Pentagon.

What is certain is that the damage seen at WTC could not possibly be coherent with the NIST explanation. What is certain is that controlled demolition of some kind brought down the towers and WTC7. What is certain is that there were hotspots visible to sensors on satellites. What is certain is that the air at WTC was as toxic as the air coming out of an industrial incinerator.

We can speculate forever, but what is certain is that the official story fails utterly. That the heads of the commission said they were set up to fail has significant meaning.

 

No links or proof yet again? Typical.

No supporting proof yet again.

No supporting proof from you.

See above.

See above.

And what is this evidence for? Thermite?

And this is evidence of?

Let me guess. You can provide no evidence because the "story is so old"?

 

I say again Gamolon, inform yourself. I citied facts that are more than 10 years old. That suggests you have been completely unaware of those facts for at least that long. Whether that unawareness is deliberate on your part or simply accidental, I don't know. And don't care.

I have no obligation to educate you or any other poster. Curious individuals who have informed themselves are already aware of the facts you deny.

 

I'm not asking you to "educate" anyone. You make claims and then refuse to back them up with any evidence. So far that's all you've done. Make claims and refuse to back them up.

 

Well that sounds great Gamolon. You go ahead and prove any single element of your story. Back up your claims, prove your fantasy. Prove that Kean and Hamilton were wrong when they claimed to have been set up to fail.

Good luck! LOL Put your money where your mouth is, prove the official story.

 

SOME of them are facts. Some are speculation. It's a fact that you refuse to expound on what you think some of these facts are proof of. For example, what does that fact that there was "toxic air" coming from the collapsed buildings proof of? Are you claiming that all building fires burn "clean"?

Educate yourself.
https://www.firehouse.com/safety-he...aning-and-decon-considerations-after-the-fire

https://www.ksn.com/news/local/ksn-...he-flames-go-out_20180309060054705/1023513234

 

I think he's still running with the 1st edition of Loose Change ...

 

Maybe all those sergeants would be content if Federal Lynching churchstate of hate KKK cops who baptize thine eyes by urinations in all statistical probability killed one of Eisenhower's Pentagon staff sergeants in foreshadowing before 9/11 just as West Nazi Germany Virginia's KKK churchstate cops thieving of presented by Ike for business excellence old glory arsonists foreshadowing wouldn't be protected & served by a supreme swastika up Uranus court of Islam Christiananality pedophile mentality immaculate drug conceptions.

 

I know you're still running with the first edition of the OCT and that's almost 17 years old. They did change it a few times though. That goes along with the adage that the truth never changes, lies change all the time.

 

which lies Bobby? ... versus all the crank theories running rampant out there? ... please enlighten us o' wise one ...

 

Are you that dense? (that's thetorical) The OCT IS a crank theory running rampant out there.

 

Who'd of guessed the supreme swastika up Uranus court justice with yet another immaculate drug conception to protect & serve Federal Lynching churchstate of hate KKK cops which baptize eyes by urination foreshadowing what ever 9/11 is as West Nazi Germany Virginia's KKK thieving old testament-old glory arsonists churchtstate cops which baptize thine eyes by urinations foreshadowing stealing a US Constitution off the wall of a navy hospital to burn on a cross.

 

The toxic air means that office fires and gravity were not the sole source of the collapse of the buildings. The toxic air corroborates the molten iron and hot spots recorded and witnessed. The toxic air helps explain how the iron remained in a boiling state for close to 3 months. The toxic air was the secret being kept by the head of the EPA in her reports, when she said "OH, the air is fine", another lie associated with the fraudulent story you defend.

 

No it doesn't. I already explained that, but you must have missed it. The hotspots shown on the satellite images were nowhere NEAR the temps needed for molten iron. Nice try though. You debunked yourself.

BOILING STATE?!?! You're kidding right? Iron boils at 5,184°F?!?! Do you know the difference between boiling iron and molten iron? Probably not after the quote above.

 

How so? Do you have results of the toxic air showing it's composition? Let me guess. The story is "too old"? Is that what you're going with again?

 

It's way too old for your dissonant mind, but Christopher Bollyn, who I am sure you will now attack, wrote about that air measurement in his book in 2012, "Solving 9-11".

In September 2001 Robert Leifer from the DOE Environmental Measurement Laboratory in NYC contacted Mr. Cahill of the DELTA Group in California and asked him to come sample the air at WTC. By October 2, 2001 the Davis air monitoring unit was set up on the lab's roof at 201 Varick Street about a mile north of the rubble of WTC. The Davis drum was located about 150 feet above street level, but lower than most of the surrounding buildings. Cahill's sampling began October 2 and continued until late December, when the last fires were extinguished.

The DELTA Group's work revealed the presence of extremely small metallic aerosols in unprecedented amounts in the plumes from the rubble. Ultra-fine particles meant that the boiling point of metals found had been reached.

I know that will be rejected and denied by you Gamolon, and you will say "it's all been debunked", but that is how people in denial respond when faced with inconvenient facts.

I'm going with Cahill and others. Burning office furnishings cannot do that. The NIST theory fails, all day, every day.

 

any chance you have links so I don't have to sift through Bollyn's anti-semitic rants? ...

 

only takes 1 - gwb

 

2 for a conspiracy.