Being White

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  1. Renee

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    Tell us about those fences that keep you out because you’re white and want to be on the other side.
     
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    I enjoy being white because it is a part of who I am. Is there any reason I should not?
     
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    I love being white because I have privileges that dark skin people don’t have
     
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    I have to Laugh that because you come from a black neighborhood we have to conclude you are not a racist
     
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    Who said that?
    I'm no racist, but I'm not ashamed to be white, I have no privilege to check in my neighbourhood though.
    I'm the one pulling black people up on theirs where I'm from.
     
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    Come to Thornton Heath, try and get a job locally working for a Jamaican restaurant or News Agents or Chicken Shop; It's unwritten, but you've got to be black to work in the first one, and Indian to work in latter two.
     
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    You can leave your neighborhood and enjoy your white privilege. Whoever said you should be ashamed of being white? That’s so ridiculous.
     
  8. Renee

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    Oh heck, I won’t get a job in a Jamaican restaurant....next you’ll depress me and tell me I can’t be a server in a Japanese restaurant. There go all my options for a career
     
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    If these people don't like the supposed attitudes of white people, they simply don't have to live around us. Instead, they follow us around by the tens of millions like hungry dogs waiting to be fed.

    90% of the planet isn't white. The white 10% doesn't owe them anything, isn't responsible for their thousands of years of unchecked squalor, and isn't obliged to give them the last 10% of the planet that isn't dark.

    These people need to stop acting like dependent animals.
     
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    Do you really consider the first picture to be 'white'?

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    Although many say the word Aryan means White, not all Aryans are part of Persia.


    The word Aryan comes from the ancient languages of Iran and India. It was the term that ancient Indo-Iranian-speaking people likely used to identify themselves in the period around 2000 BCE. This ancient group's language was one branch of the Indo-European language family. Literally the word Aryan may mean noble one.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/what-does-aryan-mean-195465


    So based from 'eye' service, which would appear more noble to you if you did not know the lower was a Prince?

    That is from eye service. Now what about from the perspective of God's Word(s)?

    1 Corinthians 11:14 "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?"


    Can a 'shame' be a Noble one?

    So if 'nature' teaches that for a man to have long hair it is a shame would even 'nature' find you a shame if 'nature' saw a man with long hair? How would nature appreciate any honor from such a man who claims to be right with long hair if even Nature, herself, teaches it is a shame? And isn't Nobility of the Earth, or Nature?


    Let us assume, for a second that both pictures are of nobles. The first gives partial glory to God for the Nobility whereas the second does not give that much glory to God for the Nobility. Who would probably be held in more honor? I would say the second.

    Why?

    Because of sincerity. Rather than trying to 'flatter' God, by bringing Him glory through ways not prescribed in His Holy Texts, and rather than saying God's Words are interpretable, the second does what is upright and moral according to that which he sees and hears, namely to keep life in well order and peace and preservation even though he might not give too much acknowledgment to God or to any Holy Text(s).


    Does not 'nature', herself, teach certain things about Royalty?
     
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    Look at the power....mostly white males, so quit the childish whining
     
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    Of course it is - in countries founded by and historically populated by a massive white majority. What else would you see? Why should whites give away what they've built? Do you expect Africans to? Mexicans? Chinese? Or do you selectively have a hang up about white people?
     
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    Wow....this is fodder for my prejudice class...so men should deny women equality?
    Whites built on the backs of others....What is it that you are figuring that we are giving away?
     
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    I disagree.
     
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    I'm a white, male, heterosexual, cis-gender, middle aged, middle class person living in a country where all of those things worked in my favour. Furthermore I was lucky to grow up in a stable and loving family unit with parents who actively encouraged me to achieve and I was also in receipt of a free university education.

    Before I congratulate myself too much on how well my life turned out, I have to recognise that I was playing the game of life on one of its easiest settings. I suspect the only way it could have been easier is if I have been born into serious money, gone to a major public school and started my career in Daddy's merchant bank. I'm certainly not going to beat myself up over things but I also have to recognise that pretty much everyone else had a much harder hill to climb - including school friends whose parents were actively anti-education beyond basic literacy and numeracy because they felt it would distract their children from preparing to be ready to run the family farm.
     
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    'check your privilege'
    what privilege?
    Every time I check it
    Everyone's tryin' to wreck it
     
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    You didn't answer my post all, rather you bristled that I rubbed against some New Left ideology you've internalized. Can you EXPLAIN what was wrong with my post?

    A prejudice class? Something based on neo-Marxist Critical Theory, right? Something that teaches everyone has national sovereignty and a right to exist as a demographic except white people, right? Can you state specifically what exactly is wrong with white people founding a country and populating it with their own brethren and establishing a government and culture in their image? The US went wrong with slavery, but slavery doesn't mean whites don't have the basic right to a homeland everyone else has.

    And most importantly, a class that only accuses white people of bigotry? Do you understand those types of classes are political indoctrination and anti-white animus?

    Men and women aren't equal, so what do you mean? By what right to do they have to have "equal" access to everything? No - women have no business on the front lines, and indeed women often opt-out of many male-dominated fields such as construction, trash collecting, working in mines, and mortuaries. Why do men and women have to have equal social roles? This is secular feminist mythology. Gender roles are not oppression, they are the ingredients of a healthy family unit.

    No, whites really didn't build on the backs of others. Some greedy scumbag whites used free labor in the form of slavery to enrich themselves. Your broad, sweeping statements are inaccurate. Most of the builders in the US were white. Most of the labor from slaves was agricultural and in the South. I would suggest not so broad-brushing and look closer at the basic reason for why the US has been so successful - and that's a form of government with economic policy that has caused business to flourish and has provided a ripe environment for innovation. The left, however, like to promote the myth that white people "stole it all" and it was "built by slaves." Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.

    I would strongly suggest not taking historical and values lessons from leftists.
     
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    Nonsense. The groups that have been historically discriminated against in the US actually would have had a much tougher time in the countries of their ancestral origin. Sadly, you as well blindly accept the neo-Marxist line rather than looking at that whites are the ones that innovated the type of stable government and economic and educational infrastructure to allow economic advancement and the raising of living standards and an explosion of technological innovation. You take that as something to be embarrassed about. Countries that have adopted similar government and economic models have produced very productive economies, such as in Asia, while Cuba with its socialist nonsense, is a stagnant toilet. Venezuela is on the verge of mass-starvation.
     
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    "White privilege" is a New Leftist myth whipped up by a couple Marxists which was popularized in a very low-quality essay in 1987 by a radical Berkeley hag. It even defines as "white privilege" the idea that a white person can wake up in a country founded by their white ancestors and populated by other white people from the same ethnic group, yet it doesn't do that with non-white societies. There is no bashing of "brown privilege" for Latinos in Mexico or "yellow privilege" for Chinese in China, or "black privilege" for blacks in Africa. It is an arbitrary political standard only wielded against white people, selectively, due to their race and thus it is a RACIST concept and indeed an ideological weapon.
     
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    Yes you’re right.....it’s just my Imagination when I look at congress and top ceos and the power structure and see white men. I guess they’re really women in drag
     
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    White privilege is nothing new...try being black and hailing a cab in New York...do you get followed around in stores because you’re white?
    Blacks have been told they are inferior human beings for centuries ..do you think because we passed laws that the internalized messages just disappeared?
    We never defined Asians as inferior. What about the inferiority of women? Do you accept that readily?
     
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    Yeah and if look at the absolute bottom of the pyramide, you will also find mostly White men.

    See, the thing with power is that it is a very ambigious term that also is very contextual. Moreover, is it something that is not held by collectives, but rather by individuals. I view each individual as capable of making his/her own decisions and even if there are structures in society, these are not oppressive ones that undermines any individual's agency.

    America's perhaps most famous international superstar as we speak is Beyoncé, an African American female. One of the most famous musical genres worldwide is rap, a genre that was born in underprivileged African American neighbourhoods. America just recently had a biracial president and the person who has had the strongest infuence on the philosophy you follow is a Black woman, Kimberle Crenshaw. Claiming there is racist structures in 'The West' today is absolutely preposterous.
     
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    Whether a cab picks you up or not is entirely dependent on the neighbourhood - A Black man in a tuxedo at Wall Street is less likely to be ignored than a White man in a hoodie in Harlem. Have you tried being a cab-driver yourself? Do you even have any statistical evidence that Blacks are being denied taxi rides in higher extent than other groups? Are all cab drivers racists? Why do taxi companies hire racists; shouldn't their goal be to have as many customers as possible?

    Blacks who get followed around stores, most likely, have been behaving in a way employees/store owner percieves as "suspicious". Every store's goal is to get a profit that is as high as possible, so there is no intetest at all in discriminating any customer and/or scaring the away from the business by harassing them.

    Stop treating Blacks as helpless cattle.

    Asians were sent to concentration camps and were denied employment, get your facts right. And today, affirmative action has created a situation where high achieving Asians are denied college education simply because they are Asians and thereby belong to the "wrong quota". Also, look at how early cartoons depicted Asians.
     
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    So you have no answer for my questions and points but instead double down on the New Left social theory you've been taught in school? THAT is your argument?

    Out of everything I've said regarding to a right for the different groups of humanity to have homelands, you have zero response. You also have zero response for my pointing out you fallaciously claimed that whites built everything on the backs of others, and instead you move to another New Left talking point : "Denied a taxi," "Followed in a store," etc.

    You're not remotely defending your views; you're simply moving from one talking point to another after each one is challenged and you have no response.

    Get off your soap box, put down your bullhorn and defend your views coherently and rationally.
     

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