FBI fires Peter Strzok over anti-Trump texts

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's common knowledge to anyone who has followed the subject. If you don't know basic facts why are you even on this thread?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy
     
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    Umm, no.

    Cite to actual evidence that she shared classified information with people not entitled to it.

    Don't lazily cite to Wiki.

    "Common knowledge"? *LOL*
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you even on this thread???
     
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    Storing classified material in your basement has always been in violation of 18 U.S. Code § 793 because one's basement isn't a "proper place of custody". Read it again............

    You just can't store it anywhere but......"a proper place of custody".

    My my, how times have changed. Poor Mr. Deutch he kept classified information on his home computer 20 years too early, not to worry Uncle Bill came to the rescue and pardoned him before he was charged. Somehow I think it wouldn't have mattered if Comey recommended charges or not, Obama would have pardoned her on the spot anyway.

    Please show proof the Government permitted Hillary's basement as a......"a proper place of custody".
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    GIve it up. The Clinton foundation has been vetted many times and got a great rating.

    But I’m sure your next post will be about Trumps painting wont it ;)
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you even know the role of a special prosecutor.....I guess not
     
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    The perfesser is making a career out of misconstruing news articles.

    Sad.
     
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    Gee, your reading comprehension sucks. Steele was fired by the FBI for lying. FISC was never informed of his untrustworthiness and then Ms. Ohr who worked for Fusion and Mr. Ohr who was #4 and DOJ formed an authorized information pipeline from the fired Steele to first the FBI and then to Dirty Bob Mueller and is 13 corrupt Democrat Prosecutors.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So they can expect $145 million donations from the Russians every year?
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, the FBI had an informant. Nothing they did was illegal. And you also seem to leave out the part that "nobody has confirmed that Ohr's wife actually worked on the dossier".

    But if your going to play the six degrees of Kevin Bacon, how about Trumps business partner and campaign manager was deeply rooted with Russian Oligarchs and the Russian Government......see how easy this game is
     
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    Its did'nt come from the russians. It came from the ex owner of Uranium One who sold the company 7 years before he donated to her

    Honest question: If thats so important to know who donates to whom, why arent you and yours even asking about Trumps finances ?
     
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    That’s an excellent question
     
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    Lying to FISC is absolutely illegal
     
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    What were the “lies”?
     
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    When did he lie to FISC ?
     
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    The Obama Administration repeatedly lied to FISC on the warrant applications.
     
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  18. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The truth is a little more complicated than you suggest. http://thehill.com/policy/national-...sian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

    The charges against Donald Trump relate to Russian involvement and here we have a clear image of genuine Russian involvement with Hillary Clingon. And of course we know about BH Obama as well.

    No defelections please.
     
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    1. You claimed that Steele lied to FISC, not Obama. Your moving the goalposts yet again

    2. Obama Administration did no such thing, because NOBODY knows what they said to the FISA court

    If you really want the truth, then tell Trump to release what was said. He can declassify it with a stroke of his pen. But he hasn’t and he waon’t. And you know why
     
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    Who’s deflecting ? All of these allegations have been debunked for years now. Peter Schweitzer originated these accusations, and they are so thuroghly debunked that he isn’t even trying to defend them anymore.

    1. The donations to the Clinton Fund came 7 years after Uranium One was sold
    2. Hillary Clinton was one of 9 people who had to sign off on the deal. She couldn’t give it away if she wanted to.
    3. Barack Obama had the final say
    4. Uranium One does not have, and never will have an export license. They cannot take any uranium outside the US.
    5. They use the term “Nuclear Ambitions” why ? NONE of the Uranium in question is weapons grade

    That article is almost laughable. They use the very thoroughly debunked Uranium One story as a base for a myriad of other accusations. All of which become ridiculous, because the core of the story is not just wrong, its a flat out lie.

    He didn’t “join” Hillary, he was on the Committee on Foreign Investment by default because he was the Attorney General. But I sounds more sinister to make everyone think they joined some liberal club to sell america.
     
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    No. Your reading comprehension sucks, as usual.
    The FISA application shows that the FBI lied to the Court in order to illegally spy on the Trump Campaign, Transition and Administration.

    The FISA application the FBI used to obtain a warrant to spy on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page removes all doubt that the FBI withheld pertinent information from the judges who approved a highly intrusive domestic spying operation during a presidential campaign.

    The FBI finally coughed up the 412-page FISA application documents over the weekend. Linked here.

    The dossier played a leading role in the wiretap request. The FBI had corroborated none of the dossier claims before filing its application.The FBI never told the court that the dossier had been bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign.

    Each FISA application — the original one in October 2016, and the three renewals at 90-day intervals — is labeled VERIFIED APPLICATION (bold caps in original). And each one makes this breathtaking representation:

    'The FBI has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its April 5, 2001 procedures, which include sending a copy of the draft to the appropriate field office(s).'

    In reality, the applications were never verified for accuracy. The FBI lied on every single application.

    The FBI went to court to get a wiretap on a U.S. citizen it claimed was a Russian agent. It based this charge mainly on an uncorroborated, salacious document financed by the Clinton campaign. It failed to clearly disclose the funding source. Nor did it reveal that it had not independently corroborated any of its claims.

    Democrats are now the Party of Illegal Government Spying.
     
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    Good lord man. Your just spewing talking points with no basis in fact, and so many leaps to reach your political conclusions that its amazing to watch it happen

    1. The FISA application is HEAVILY redacted

    2. Please show with FACT, that the Dossier wad “the leading role”.

    3. You claim this was all to “Spy on the Trump campaign”, when in fact the first 2 FISA warrants for Carter Page were long before he joined the Trump campaign. That is not trivial since they were watching Carter Page before he joined the Trump campaign, and continued that surveillance after Trump hired him. SO the origin of the surveillance was the man, not the campaign.

    4. Then my favorite, your “breathtaking representation”. Please show your PROOF that the Dossier was the only thing used. THEN you have to show exactly what was used from the dossier, THEN you have to show that what they used was a lie. NONE of which you can do. You keep spewing talking points from Fox News and Hannity, with no basis in fact because that was all top secret and you know it.

    5. The court was told of the provenance of the dossier. Hell even Fox News admits this so they can push that the “corroborating evidence”, the yahoo articles were written for the same reason. It’s stunning to watch. To go after the a new conspiracy, they have to admit the original was wrong. Just f’n stunning to watch
     
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    Oh... the FBI redacted the parts that would reveal they aren't actually bald-faced liars who deliberately and repeatedly mislead the Court and swore false oaths? The same FBI that redacted the price of a desk they purchased because it was exorbitant? Don't make me laugh!
    Oh horseshit.
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    More frantic bullshit. I said it had a Leading Role, McCabe testified under oath that without the Dossier there would have been no FISA Warrants. What, other than the lies in the Dossier would constitute a probable cause basis for a FISA warrant on Page?
    The Court was repeatedly told, under oath, that it was VERIFIED when Steele himself testified, in court, that it was UNVERIFIED, yet, the lying FBI on subsequent applications continued to lie to the Court that it was verified. Leaking Jim Comey, himself, who signed the majority of the applications, testified under oath to congress, that it was UNVERIFIED.
     
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    "McCabe testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the [FISA court] without the Steele dossier information"

    :roflol: Always paint from the corners toward the door.
     
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    It's time to put an end to that long time lie that Russia's uranium acquisition from Uranium One (the one that brought so many donations
    from Russian oligarchs to the Clinton Foundation) could never be removed from the US (sort of making the acquisition by Russian
    sources moot and pointless) due to terms of the deal.

    Why would the Russians pour money into acquiring something they could never get their hands on, you might rightfully wonder.
    Well, they wouldn't!

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...deal-led-to-some-exports-to-europe-memos-show

    So wow again! The Obama administration lied once more and promised one thing, loudly, often and publicly (so certain gullible leftist
    messenger pigeons could spread the lie around....thank you) while it did something quietly behind the scenes that was altogether different.
     
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