Dems are going at Brett pretty hard.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Sep 14, 2018.

  1. ImNotOliver

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    I was reading this article, the other day, in a local weekly. It was about the television show Portlandia. Even Though I live in Portland, I have never seen it, except short YouTube clips. Anyhow, the article went on to explain that few people in Portland have cable, at a rate much lower than the national average. It went on to further explain that the more liberal one is, the less likely one is to have cable, or even to watch television.

    In any case, I have never had cable, never watched MSNBC, CNN,or FOX.

    I keep getting the feeling that many conservatives I talk to on-line, get their view of the world from what they watch on television. However, television is the land of make believe. After all, isn't that how you found out that all liberals are influenced by MSNBC and CNN, your right-wing rhetoric outlets keep telling you. I'd be willing to bet more conservatives watch CNN and MSNBC than liberals.
     
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    The far left has always been authoritarian on free speech, but you are crazy if you thing the right are not, or that they are becoming less so. They simply different on exact speech should be infringed upon.
     
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    Some of the same reasons as anybody else. My career and family are here. Also I'm actually not one of the persons directly hurt by conservative policies given that I'm not gay, female, poor, a drug user, or non-white. I suppose being non-Christian could be an issue though given the conservative desire to be theocratic. Sort of like how a decent German would have been outraged at how the jews were being treated, but hard to be motivated to move when they're not one. But would they rather their piece of Germany be non-nazi? Yes, if such a thing had been possible.
     
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    He wont, but Kavanaugh shout sue the woman and fienstein for every cent they have
     
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    Small clarification. - The leftists are Totalitarians, not Authoritarians.

    Authoritarians require that you obey them. Totalitarians require that you not only obey them but also agree with them, or they will destroy you.

    Recall that 8 years ago Obama and Hillary were both in favor of a secure border and opposed to gay marriage. Now, anyone that is either of those things is destroyed by them, Hollywierd, and the MSM.
     
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    Dianne Feinstein is not normally the sort of Senator who gets involved in this sort of thing.

    I think he will get confirmed, alas.

    I wish that more of a deal was made of it more effectively.

    Kavanaugh is clearly a very smart, even brilliant jurist.

    But he is also obviously a right wing ideologue and a political activist.

    The GOP went to great lengths to conceal his record on torture memos and warrantless wiretapping.

    It was also clear in the hearings that he lied to the committee on substative issues the last time he appeared.

    So, one has to wonder why the nation would not want to know what work Kavanaugh did on totrure and his views on it before they let him decide on issues that affect your freedom.

    Of course, he could have been grilled on his revisionist views on whether a President is above the law.

    After all, that's the reason Trump picked him. He is trying to stack the court to keep him out of trouble.
     
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    The culmination of 2 years of democratic resistance? :confuse: Abolish ICE to essentially extend, and expand DACA to ALL illegals by eliminating enforcement altogether ... and Pelosi's proposed tax hikes. :roflol: Tax hikes, and a return to restrictive energy regs that drive up the cost$ of gasoline, and home heating don't hold much appeal ... so 'prolly better to take back the house and pass the legislation before anyone's read it to "find out what's in it". "Most transparent evah" ... :roflol:
     
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    Then it sounds to me like it’s just useless whining because you’re still sore your side lost. Very unflattering.

    And I’m sorry but are you suggesting that the US is the equivalent to Nazi Germany and conservatives all Nazis?
     
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    Apparently the habit is so ingrained that many conservatives even lie about lying. Of is it just a consequence of living in the land of make-believe?
     
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    I guess you'll be taking the upcoming loss like a man. Given that you have been falsely complaining about liberals being losers who lost. But I suspect you'll, like the rest of your brethren in arms, just come up with another excuse to bash those on the left.

    There is a reason most of those on the left see conservatives as Nazi like. A lot of it has to do with the authoritarian nature of conservatives. That and the irrationalism and dishonesty that lays at the base of their ideology. Like pretending that Republican rule helps average people.
     
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    You are fundamentally wrong on this subject. If one looks to the history of book banning, it has always been the forces of conservatism that have been doing the banning. With conservative Christians being the worse offenders. When the Beatles' albums were being burnt, it was conservative Christisns that were doing the burning.

    For a living I create and sell art objects. On a rather regular basis, artists in America see their work banished. Always by conservatives that don't like art that doesn't conform to conservative sensibilities.

    I keep hearing empty accusations from conservatives about the left being authoritarian. But never any real examples.

    But then, one of the characteristics of liberal oases is that, by law, they are not cluttered up and uglified by outside commercial advertising.
     
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    You make it sound as if the political rot in the Republican Party did not begin with tRump.
     
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    That’s of you win anything which you probably won’t but. Yes. Yes I will. Did it twice with obama. I’m not a crybaby liberal who needs to run around with a p**** hat and scream at the sky because I lost. Your dude owns that. Don’t try and deny it. Everyone saw how you guys have reacted after trump won even 2 years laters. There is no hiding from that and you ******n know it.

    If lying is all the left is capable of what can you possibly do for this country? This kind of bigotry for people who have different opinions then you is precisely the reason why trump was able to win. But that fact is lost on you? At some point you are going to be forced to realize that not everyone who doesn’t share your exact same views on everything is literally hitler.
     
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    "Tax hikes, and a return to restrictive energy regs that drive up the cost$ of gasoline, and home heating don't hold much appeal ..."

    Actually, Trump's tax bill doesn't poll particularly well. After all, people have seen this exact borrow and spend play twice now from previous GOP Presidents, and they know that they are going to be stuck with the long term bill.

    And since oil and gas prices have been going up, it's pretty hard to argue that proposing to do away with regulations in an attempt to make us MORE dependent on fossil fuels does the opposite.

    But then you're in Trumspterworld, where up is down, lies are truth, and a narcisstic, petty, little man child is a brilliant statesman.
     
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    I'm an artist. It seems to me that Kavanaugh has the type of face that will make it easy for political cartoonists to make fun of him.
     
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    No and not really. Typical response of conservatives after they win to just say "sore loser" every time they are criticized. And the latter, more like early nazis when they were only treating the jews like dirt rather than slaughtering them. Orphaning the children of people seeking asylum, for example. And no I'm not suggesting the republicans are going to become as bad as the nazis became, it was an extreme analogy to illustrate a point.
     
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    Who mentioned Hitler? You did. It has just been my opinion that those on the right are more like Nazis. Not the least is the conformist nature of conservatives. It is rather funny, going on-line, and listening to conservatives telling me that liberals are all brainwashed and act the same, and then in the real world, conservatives complain about my lack of confirmity.
     
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    The difference being that, here in the US, that there are those who are willing to push back, and have the wherewithal to do it.
     
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    The left is about expanding rights and freedoms, the greatest good for the greatest numbers. I suppose someone who is opposed to such things would see the left as Totalitarianism. I just don't see how it hurts anyone if someone else is allowed the same rights.
     
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    On the bright side, it's been a confirmation hearing that makes the Democrats proud. Their paid protesters did their job, the media covered them well, and the Democrat politicians fell in line.
     
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    That is the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time. The left is about control, power, money, and nothing else. They will destroy the country as long as they feel they've won.

    It's a shame that fools don't realize the left denies us the same rights.
     
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    Freedom and FreeStuff are 2 different things.

    When you take money from someone to give it to someone else you are robbing one person of libertyand the other person of dignity.

    But you do get to feel good about yourself.

    If you think your left loves liberty you're comparing it to a farther left.
     
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    The reason I often refer to conservatism as a dishonest ideology, is because it relies on pretending that liberals are other than they are.

    It is not like you are talking with one of your, equally misinformed, friends, I happen to be a real life, breathing liberal. You don't have to go through life resenting liberals. You can better yourself, and become like a liberal, think for yourself.
     
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    I see that your ideology has blinded you to reality. In the Bible, there is this bit about not bearing false witness. Do you think that Jesus will forgive you for the things you say about the left?
     
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    Ah. You hate free speech.
    Not really a surprise.
    Yes, yes, we know - ubermensch > untermensch.
    You really need a new shtick.
    That, and the continuous acquisition of power over the citizenry by the state, especially in terms of limiting rights that get in the way of said acquisition.
    Oh wait... that's the exact OPPOSITE of 18th century liberalism.
    How do you now know this?
     

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