We don't need more aspirin

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by thedaydreamer, Dec 26, 2012.

  1. thedaydreamer

    thedaydreamer New Member

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    Passing gun control laws is like someone with a toothache taking aspirin every day expecting it to fix the problem. While it may temporarily ease the pain, that's all it can do and it usually won't even do that completely. In the same sense, gun control may make it a little more difficult for scumbags to get guns but its powerless to fix the actual problem... people that have no regard for the lives, property, and rights of their fellow citizens. Taking aspirin on a daily basis also has negative effects on your health that develop over time. Pain killers are hard on the kidneys and the liver. Gun control has negative consequences too. It infringes on the rights and freedoms of law abiding citizens while doing very little to impede criminals. It deprives law abiding citizens of the means to protect themselves from aggression and it removes a crucial barrier that any tyrannical government must contend with... an armed populace with the power and the will to resist.

    We have a toothache here in this nation... any rational person would agree to that. However, we need to fix the problem... the real problem. Sooner or later we as a country will have to quit downing advil and fix or pull the tooth.

    This latest cry for more gun control is insane; it makes no sense to me whatsoever. Are there really that many people that lack the capacity for clear reasoning and good critical thinking? Is my reasoning unsound? If so, tell me how. Tell me sensically why you disagree with me. Do me a favor people and don't reply to this thread with the results of academic studies. I don't care what some indoctrinated professor thinks or what a researcher found. I'm not talking about words in research papers or numbers in statistical reports. I'm talking about logic and critical thinking.
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    Oh, I do agree with you. We haven't actually figured out if guns are the problem. However, if it is established that guns are the problem, then something must be done.
     
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    godisnotreal Well-Known Member

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    well, if we have a toothache, the correct solution is to pull out the tooth. In this case, the "tooth" is a gun. So we should get rid of all guns?
     
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    Diuretic Well-Known Member

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    For what it's worth I think you're on the right track. No mention of the Second Amendment, no mention of cars needing to be banned or any of the other guff that distractors like to throw up.

    Causes of harm need to be analysed. Firearms merely facilitate harm, they're not the causes of harm. So it seems sensible to address the causes plus how to risk manage the facilitating factors. Calls to simply ban or limit or otherwise restrict "firearms" without a solid rationale are not going to be effective.
     
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    thedaydreamer New Member

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    No, you're missing my point. The "tooth" is not the gun. The tooth is the nutjob whacko that walks into a school or mall and blasts away. People are crying out for gun control in an effort to stop the pain that the tooth is causing, not realizing that gun control is powerless to stop the pain and has negative consequences for the future.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Poverty.

    That accounts for most crime.
     
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    Risk of "wet" age-related macular degeneration...
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    Long-term aspirin 'blindness link'
    21 January 2013 : People who regularly take aspirin for many years, such as those with heart problems, are more likely to develop a form of blindness, researchers say.
     
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    God bless you and the USA. I have recently joined as the blue line and I agree with you totally. As a retired cop I can tell you if the justice system did not fail so miserably prosecuting criminals and keeping them in prison where they belong, wouldn't be in this mess.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    'Aspirin-a-day risky in old age'...
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    'Aspirin-a-day risky in old age' - major study
    16 Sept.`18 - Elderly people in good health should not take an aspirin a day, according to a major study in the US and Australia.

     
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    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

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    Still a very very low risk of the macular degeneration and it may only be a statistical variation.

    I'll stick with my aspirin per day.
     
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    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

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    I thought this thread was going to be about aspirin.

    Next time you might try a better title, such as "gun control is like aspirin".
     
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    bumper sticker I saw at a VFW hall--I was willing to give my life to defend the constitution-are you willing to give your life to take my constitutional rights away"?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    A rare thing, most anti gun types expect others, men with guns, ironically, to carry out their agendas.
    As for the Constitution, many that seek to undermine it hide behind it when challenged.
     
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    I take a 75mg dispersible aspirin 3 or 4 times a week because they're mild anticoagulants, and will therefore lower the risk of clots. Nothing to do with age because clots can strike anyone at any time.
     
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    The anti-gun left doesn't want more gun control laws because it wants to reduce crime - it wants to reduce the number of law-abiding willing to go though the trouble of exercising their right to keep and bear arms.
     
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    No, the data has established that "guns" are not cause of the problem, that's why gun control does not solve the problem.

    The cause of the problem is mental illness.
     

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